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Definitely won't be going to Arizona while this law is on the books ! I urge others to join the boycott as well.I have heard that hundreds of organizations and thousands of individuals have already cancelled trips,hotels,conventions,etc.
Outside of what you think, it's impossible to even fathom applying that law in NYC. Just the sheer impracticality of trying to apply that in this city. Cops are overburdened as it is, and we would ask them to worry about asking people to provide their immigration papers. It's a federal issue and should remain one.
I also don't believe any other states are going to even step anywhere near a law like this. It's too risky and too divisive.
The law doesn't COMPEL officers to check legality, just gives them permission to where they didn't before.
The law doesn't COMPEL officers to check legality, just gives them permission to where they didn't before.
Sure...and WHO's to say the WON'T be compelled with the new law. You can't answer that. That's the problem with this law. And with the threat of being sued if the don't enforce this law, will COMPEL many officers. And how will they prove they are enforcing this new law...quotas. When an officer has to meet a quota with a law like this, trust me...a lot of harassment is going to happen.
Statements comparing somehow AZ law with Gestapo are completely ridiculous. Obviously people know nothing about either one.
Do you know that it was always a federal law for all immigrants in US to carry green card and present it to police or immigration authority at their request. And there is a punishment in the books for violation. It was never enforced, but it's in the books. It's just AZ took existing laws finally seriously.
Now compare that to what Giuliani did. According to Dick Morris, "He insisted that the cops enforce laws against minor offences like playing boom boxes too loud or smoking pot. It wasn’t that these quality-of-life crimes were that important; his point was that they gave the police legal grounds to search suspects and find weapons and more serious drugs. The result was that criminals in NY began to find it dangerous to carry illegal weapons. Rudy also enforced bench warrants for parole violators, in the process of pulling untold repeat offenders off the streets." Many also cried racial profiling, but it wasn't racial profiling, it was criminal profiling. Every criminal investigator would tell you that creating a profile of a crime is extremely important. Police absolutely must profile illegal immigration activities if they want to enforce already existing immigration laws. There isn't really a need for the new laws, just start taking existing laws seriously.
Statements comparing somehow AZ law with Gestapo are completely ridiculous. Obviously people know nothing about either one.
Do you know that it was always a federal law for all immigrants in US to carry green card and present it to police or immigration authority at their request. And there is a punishment in the books for violation. It was never enforced, but it's in the books. It's just AZ took existing laws finally seriously.
Now compare that to what Giuliani did. According to Dick Morris, "He insisted that the cops enforce laws against minor offences like playing boom boxes too loud or smoking pot. It wasn’t that these quality-of-life crimes were that important; his point was that they gave the police legal grounds to search suspects and find weapons and more serious drugs. The result was that criminals in NY began to find it dangerous to carry illegal weapons. Rudy also enforced bench warrants for parole violators, in the process of pulling untold repeat offenders off the streets." Many also cried racial profiling, but it wasn't racial profiling, it was criminal profiling. Every criminal investigator would tell you that creating a profile of a crime is extremely important. Police absolutely must profile illegal immigration activities if they want to enforce already existing immigration laws. There isn't really a need for the new laws, just start taking existing laws seriously.
You must understand that this is racial profiling. Remember the attack in Pearl Harbor? Well after the attack in Pearl Harbor many Japanese were taken to concentration camps just because they looked Japanese.. This included American Japs and illegal Japs. This is what happening with the new Immigration law.. Just because a person looks Mexican it does not mean that the person is a criminal or is here illegally. The governor should implement another type of law, because this law will lead to harassment.
You must understand that this is racial profiling. Remember the attack in Pearl Harbor? Well after the attack in Pearl Harbor many Japanese were taken to concentration camps just because they looked Japanese.. This included American Japs and illegal Japs. This is what happening with the new Immigration law.. Just because a person looks Mexican it does not mean that the person is a criminal or is here illegally. The governor should implement another type of law, because this law will lead to harassment.
Bad example. SOme of those Japanese being locked up were citizens. Those in Arizona who get locked up are b/c they are here illegally. THose that are legal shouldn't care, they can flash there ID and move on.
If ur job was doing random test for weed and you don't smoke, would u care if they tested you?
Bad example. SOme of those Japanese being locked up were citizens. Those in Arizona who get locked up are b/c they are here illegally. THose that are legal shouldn't care, they can flash there ID and move on.
If ur job was doing random test for weed and you don't smoke, would u care if they tested you?
well not once in a while, but if they will keep bugging me then yeah. Those Mexicans will get tired of it, because they will be asked wherever they go, are you a US citizen? It gets tiring, and they will get harassed on a daily basis.
What other country in the history of the world allows foreign nationals "rights" and equality with citizens? While I do not have a problem with the Mexican people they really do not have a "right" to invade a sovereign country and claim the same rights as native or naturalized citizens. The entire affair makes a complete mockery of rule of law and makes a fool out of taxpayers. Go to any country in the world and pull these stunts and you will find yourself on the wrong end of a nightstick and many nights in a cold gulag.
We can see the double edged sword agenda here. At the top end you can see the powerful rich which wants these people over here as a source of cheap labor and powerful way to lower wages; thus these illegal immigrants have enjoyed de facto legal impunity. On the low end you can see opportunistic race-hustlers like Sharpton hurrying to their defense as they look to increase their market share in the race hustling business.
The sad part is that these people for the most part are hard working people. They are being economically exploited for cheap labor while being courted by race hustlers to be morally de-based then permanently ghettoized to provide a fixed voting block for liberal programs. Within one generation their work ethic will be cannibalized as they are indoctrinated in materialistic American ghetto culture. They will go from hard working to victims and wards of the state under the "leadership" that has emerged for them. Will the rich corporations and liberal foundations feel the backlash for their transgressions? No they will not. It will be the immigrants themselves that will bear the brunt of a native back lash. This really is a lose-lose situation for everyone, the only benefit is short term cheap labor.
Let's bring the focus of this thread back to the original topic. It's spiraling into other aspects of immigration, enforcement policy, and historical concerns that are unrelated to the topic at hand because they are not exclusively issues that affect NYC. As such, those are topics for another forum. Thank you.
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