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Old 02-15-2020, 02:59 PM
 
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An ad campaign to be launched Friday by the New York State United Teachers union will push for a tax increase for wealthy people in the state in order to add more spending for school aid and education.


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Old 02-15-2020, 03:03 PM
 
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any time someone says “pay your fair share” I tune out.

Best way to pay is to combine school districts, eliminate administrators and superintendents, eliminate tenure based upon seniority and tax teacher pensions if they leave NY in retirement.
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Old 02-15-2020, 03:13 PM
 
Location: NYC
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any time someone says “pay your fair share” I tune out.

Best way to pay is to combine school districts, eliminate administrators and superintendents, eliminate tenure based upon seniority and tax teacher pensions if they leave NY in retirement.
Do you favor taxing cop pensions if they leave NY in retirement ?
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Old 02-15-2020, 03:41 PM
 
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Do you favor taxing cop pensions if they leave NY in retirement ?
Yes. All NY public pensions should be taxed if they leave the state. Even if it’s not the full state tax rate. Even 1% is fine, but something so they can also “pay their fair share”.

The taxpayers funded these people with their salaries and then after retirement on generous pensions they no longer have to help NY in return? And these unions have the gall to ask taxpayers for more?
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Old 02-15-2020, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Yes. All NY public pensions should be taxed if they leave the state. Even if it’s not the full state tax rate. Even 1% is fine, but something so they can also “pay their fair share”.

The taxpayers funded these people with their salaries and then after retirement on generous pensions they no longer have to help NY in return? And these unions have the gall to ask taxpayers for more?
I believe people residing in NY pulling a state pension and the generous health plan should have to pay state income tax.
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Old 02-15-2020, 04:28 PM
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Location: Where my bills arrive
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Looking online at retirement payments to NY educators we can just that tax them and get more than adequate monies for any of the unions dreams...
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Old 02-15-2020, 07:32 PM
 
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any time someone says “pay your fair share” I tune out.

Best way to pay is to combine school districts, eliminate administrators and superintendents, eliminate tenure based upon seniority and tax teacher pensions if they leave NY in retirement.
Finally someone who gets it. The paying your fair share argument is so ridiculous.
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Old 02-16-2020, 07:38 AM
 
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Anyone who thinks that funneling even more money into the public schools really does need an education.
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Old 02-17-2020, 01:07 PM
 
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Anyone who thinks that funneling even more money into the public schools really does need an education.
What happened was that the 2% cap on property tax increases stopped the endless dipping into homeowner pocketbooks. I looked back at property tax bills from 2005-2010 and each year they went up 5%, 6%, 7%.

Inflation went up 3.7% in 2007, 0.2% in 2008, 2.5% in 2009, 1.3% in 2010. In the 20 years from 2000-2019 the inflation rate was higher than 2% only 8 times.

NY schools (I'm speaking overall, not necessarily about NYC schools) spend by far the most per pupil than anywhere else. Why do they need more?
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Old 02-17-2020, 06:46 PM
 
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What happened was that the 2% cap on property tax increases stopped the endless dipping into homeowner pocketbooks. I looked back at property tax bills from 2005-2010 and each year they went up 5%, 6%, 7%.

Inflation went up 3.7% in 2007, 0.2% in 2008, 2.5% in 2009, 1.3% in 2010. In the 20 years from 2000-2019 the inflation rate was higher than 2% only 8 times.

NY schools (I'm speaking overall, not necessarily about NYC schools) spend by far the most per pupil than anywhere else. Why do they need more?

My point is that there is no amount of money that can help some people learn. If someone wants to learn, there's the library, internet, books, magazines, mentors, etc. Nothing will hold back someone who wants to learn.
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