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My sister lives in McAlester, if there is a bigger white trash dump in the US I haven't seen it. That aside, I'm also a UT grad so the chances of me ever saying anything nice about Oklahoma are slim & none
My husband is from Texas and is a UT fan. Now it makes more sense. It still wouldn't hurt to tone the language down.
I currently live in TN but I don't consider myself really a southerner or a northerner. I've lived everywhere in America mostly out west and in the south. I don't have problems with ppl from the north personally. A lot of them are as friendly,,"off the road",, or more as southerners. It's what they cause when they all move south that frustrates me. Like causing over crowded roads,schools,stores,dining,etc. I mean, whats the point in moving south if you're just gonna contribute to the same problems you had up north?
I agree Hillbilly southerners drive too slow, but ppl from the North wanna drive 80mph over the limit.
Also whenever I'm in line at the grocery store I have someone in front of me checking out annoyingly slow taking their good ole time while at the same time huffing and puffing behind me is an impatient Northerner who acts like it's my fault the line is slow.
I think I will move to Branson Missouri. People there seem smart AND friendly.
I was born and raised in NYC suburbs. My trade is the repair and installation of commercial and industrial laundry equipment. I had about 10 years experience when I went to Alabama. In 10 years, never had an injury at work, other than a minor cut that I needed a band aide for my finger. Never went to the doctor or hospital for a work related injury until I got down there. Within 6 months, I was severely injured by a co-worker. He was operating a fork lift and I we securing a washing machine to the foundation. He backed up into me and crushed my hand. Three broken bones. I was out of work for over a month. I had to battle workers comp for over a year before I got money for my lost pay.
Laws to protect workers are very week down there. I found a lot of racism and bigotry down there. I am 1/4 Ukrainian and 3/4 Belorussian, but born here. My parents are immigrants. I have a foreign sounding last name. We can't all be Anglo-Saxon. I used to get a lot of strange reactions to my name, what was in my lunch box or even that I like music from my ancestral home. I vwas told to go back to where I came from... even though I'm from the USA.
My wife heard the other day that people that moved down south from ny are now moving back. has anybody you know (yourself included) done this? If so why? We're wondering because we've thought from time to time about moving down south but would like to know the downsides that other northerners have experienced.
if it looks too good to be true, it probably is. In my area (coast of SC and NC) a lot of people move down here with really odd expectations. They all basically want a small, walkable New England-type town, close to the beach, with low taxes, good schools, safe, with plenty of jobs. Nothing remotely like that exists.
they might move from somewhere like Long Island, and say, "I lived in NYC so I am used to crime." They know very little about the south and underestimate how bad the crime is.
or they might want to "live near the ocean." Not realizing that "near the ocean" was an undeveloped, malaria-infested swamp until the 1940's, and anybody with any sense was living 100 miles inland. Or that tourist areas are very transient... people come and go, few people put down roots. Or, they don't realize that $10/hr with no benefits is a typical wage at "the beach."
or they might ask about bus routes, or trains, or "walkable" areas... or public amenities like parks, pools, etc.. which are foreign to us. The sense of "community" exists between families and friends, or social class... but NOT between all members of the general public -- and public amenities reflect this sentiment.
i could go on... but IMO the whole thing is rooted in expectations. I know people from NY who love it, and people who hate it.
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le roi really brings up valid points, many moved based on their impressions as a tourist. Once the reality of 24/7 living in an area hits home they realize that their expectations are not being met. As many have posted you should really look at day to day life before you commit to move.
From the FInger Lakes area and living in the St. Pete area... we hate it here. We are constantly trying to figure out how to move back to upstate NY ANYWHERE
Where upstate are you guys looking to return? We are moving back to Baldwinsville, a suburb of Syracuse. We move in April and are counting every day down. I will never complain about the snow again. The only way i want to see FL is through my rear view mirror as I'm finally driving outta here! We've learned that the grass is NOT always greener on the other side. Good luck to you.
Ny does not have the problems that the southern states have ecountered it is gotton very bad afterr living in tn for 30 years I am proud to call ny home !
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Ny does not have the problems that the southern states have ecountered it is gotton very bad afterr living in tn for 30 years I am proud to call ny home !
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I had to leave for financial reasons. I'm moving back for family reasons; now with money.
I have nothing against the south as a whole, but I sure do not like Louisiana or Mississippi.
Where I lived in New York really wasn't that much better than the upland south (save for perhaps more public services). People forget that NY has Appalachian pockets as well. So I feel right at home in places like Tennessee. In fact, most of my friends are in Tennessee. But as I said, family is important to me so back the the NY hills I go.
I'm sure there are others with a story similar to mine.
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