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I come from backround which took care of the old people and rescued neighbours kids That is the reality where I grew up. I will continue sharing the good forward. We can all choose our lifestyle and values and I told mine. And as I said my rules are listed.
Helping the elderly and children is completely different than helping adults who refuse to find a job or an apartment. Needing help to get groceries because you can no longer drive or have medical issues or can't reach items on shelves is nothing like a lazy 30 year old mooch. Living with a mooch gets old realllllly fast! They don't tend to pick up after themselves or buy their own food either. Forget contributing to the household expenses. The water and electric and gas always go up when you add another person to the mix. Do you let a mooch leach off of you forever? Because they will.
having to work round the clock year in and year out is a relatively recent development in human history
Really? You think the farmers of 100+ years ago didn't work year round and year in and out? Or 18 hours a day? You didn't work, you starved to death! You had incentive to work....it kept you alive!
You still need a 30-day notice on someone who's staying at your place without a lease?
In many states, YES! They're legal tenants thus you have to go through the eviction process. Do 4 year olds sign leases? Nope. They're still legal tenants.
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Originally Posted by Laid Off
My wife and I asked my sister to move out last night. First she said noting, but after being pushed she said no, she would not leave and walked away to her room. This morning we told her again she had a week to move out and she started to cry and rushed off to her room. This is not going to be easy.
I don't know if tenant laws apply because she has no lease and has never given us a dime for rent or food.
In many states, she doesn't need a lease or pay a penny to become a tenant.
She's not going to go easily. You need to check with your city or county about the eviction laws where you live. They're probably on a website along with the 30 day form you'll need to fill out.
Be strong. be firm. Don't back down! Or she will NEVER leave. She will try to guilt you into helping. Do NOT fall for it! She's a mooch! She's a leach! You'll end up divorced if you don't give her the boot. Once you get her out, change ALL of your locks that day!
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Originally Posted by Laid Off
My parents got her to leave when we moved her stuff into an extended stay hotel and paid for it for 30 nights. Once the 30 days were up my sister had no where to live and showed up at our door steps. Now she is our problem!
You LET her become your problem! Never pay for a hotel for a month for someone! If they destroy the hotel room and it's on your credit card or in your name, YOU are held liable for the damages. And paying for the room is just some more hand holding and taking care of them. She needs to take care of herself. She's an adult. McDonald's, WalMart, Home Depot, etc at practically ALWAYS hiring! There's NO excuse not to have a job.
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Originally Posted by seain dublin
Well the recession is not long over, people are still getting laid off. I know two people myself who recently were laid off, the UE numbers are down now that UE benefits have been drastically cut and many are underemployed or have stopped looking.
Now she is the victim.
According to economists, the recession ended ages ago. There have always been layoffs even in a booming economy. Because your know people who were recently laid off doesn't mean the recession isn't over.
Does she have cognitive issues? mental health issues? It's possible that she's not capable of taking care of herself. I'm not saying you are supposed to support her, but probably before you kick her out, you should figure out if she's going to end up homeless on the streets, maybe a prostitute, or something worse.
Maybe you could set her up in a cheap motel, pay for the first month or so, and tell her she's on her own after that. If she can't do something for herself, she may end up being on some kind of public assistance for the rest of her life.
Isn't this the best plan and wouldn't this work the best? you get her out of your house, she's staying in a bona fide place so she can't say she's living with you anymore, you pay for one month rent which is probably what a lawyer or the headaches of legal eviction cost, and after that one month she's on her own and has to come up with her own Plan B.
My wife and I asked my sister to move out last night. First she said noting, but after being pushed she said no, she would not leave and walked away to her room. This morning we told her again she had a week to move out and she started to cry and rushed off to her room. This is not going to be easy.
I don't know if tenant laws apply because she has no lease and has never given us a dime for rent or food.
I told you how to handle this on the first page of comments.
Yes, tenant laws most likely apply.
You think this isn't easy now -- it's just begun. If you lock her out, she'll wait until you're at work, then break a window to get back in.
I'm telling you: You have to legally evict her. Then you can call the cops when she shows up.
I am not a lawyer but I am a landlord. And I've done evictions. You haven't seen anything until you've seen a sheriff's deputy carry a screaming and kicking deadbeat out of your house.
If you won't evict her, at least take the bedroom door off the hinges, remove the mattress, box springs and bed frame and let her sleep on the floor.
If the reason she is not working is because people keep supporting her, then a serious dose of tough love is needed. I would absolutely hate to be the person to kick someone out and put them in the situation of being homeless, but she is an adult and she needs to take responsibility for herself.
I would tell her she has "x" number of days to get a job or she's out. If she doesn't have a job by on that last day, move her out and change the locks. I would consult your other family members as well so that being homeless is her only option. Once she has a job, I would tell her she can stay with you for one or two more months to save money up for her own place, but then she has to go. If she quits or gets fired, she has to go.
If you have to take her around to places to get applications, do it. Watch her fill them out, hand them in, set up the interview if you have to. Being strict and following through is the only way she will learn and change.
She's your sister!
I'd tell the wife if she don't like it then she should move out.
You can always get another wife but you can't get another sis.
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That is the reality where I grew up. I will continue sharing the good forward. We can all choose our lifestyle and values and I told mine. And as I said my rules are listed.
