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Old 05-04-2017, 03:08 PM
 
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What are thoughts on labels like these? Earlier someone on here assumed that because my username has 75 in it that I was born in 1975. They were like, ohh well you should know the answer to that because if you were born in 1975 then you are middle aged! Made me chuckle because at 38 i was born in 1978...but i guess 38 years old today still means close to middle aged?? It feels like a bit of a dated politically incorrect term. I had 2 babies iver 35 so i can take being called old...my medical records always showed advanced maternal age or even elderly a few times.
I would call it common sense or putting 1+1 together. You were misleading. It's not a crime but I wouldn't be mad if people assume you are born in 1975 if you put out that number there.
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Old 05-04-2017, 03:49 PM
 
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Im not mad. I can assume why someone might think 75 is my year of birth...but it could also be representative of other things.
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Old 05-04-2017, 03:54 PM
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38 seems a bit young these days for middle aged. Many people im related to are living until their 90s.
I just looked up the lifespan for men in the US - and right now, it's 78. So yes, 38 is decidedly middle-aged.

I'm not sure why we don't call it that, because yes, people in their mid 50's are still called middle aged although virtually no one lives to 110. It's just a term, that doesn't mean "the middle years of your lifespan".
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Old 05-04-2017, 05:37 PM
 
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So is 60 now "elderly"? Sheesh....
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Old 05-04-2017, 05:40 PM
 
Location: here
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So is 60 now "elderly"? Sheesh....
Well it's certainly not middle aged.
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Old 05-04-2017, 05:49 PM
 
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I just looked up the lifespan for men in the US - and right now, it's 78. So yes, 38 is decidedly middle-aged.

I'm not sure why we don't call it that, because yes, people in their mid 50's are still called middle aged although virtually no one lives to 110. It's just a term, that doesn't mean "the middle years of your lifespan".
this one's a bit misleading.

"life expectancy" takes into account infant mortality. There's a sharp spike around 0-1 years of age from infants dying of random things that doesn't appear in any other year.

In addition, young men (especially minority men) tend to be prone to violent death a LOT more than women are. This effect disappears in the mid 20s to early 30s, more or less.

So anyone who has actually reached 38 has a high possibility of living longer than 78. From social security's website:

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When you are considering when to collect retirement benefits, one important factor to take into account is how long you might live.

According to data compiled by the Social Security Administration:

A man reaching age 65 today can expect to live, on average, until age 84.3.
A woman turning age 65 today can expect to live, on average, until age 86.6.
And those are just averages. About one out of every four 65-year-olds today will live past age 90, and one out of 10 will live past age 95.
https://www.ssa.gov/planners/lifeexpectancy.html

So if you're lucky enough to make it to 65, and get past the infant mortality bump as well as the "men dying of violence" bump, you are most likely to live to about 85- and the gap between women and men isn't that significant. So the OP can feel better that 38 isn't *exactly* middle aged just yet- you've got until your early 40s before that's technically correct.
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Old 05-04-2017, 05:55 PM
 
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Working class is defined differently in different countries.
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Old 05-04-2017, 08:26 PM
 
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Hey, by the way, I appreciated the information about assembly line workers, UAW, and unions earlier in the thread. Like I said, it's not a subject I know very much about and I'm grateful to have learned something new!
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Old 05-05-2017, 12:51 AM
 
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Average lifespan in USA is currently 78 years. So while it may hurt some to hear it; late thirties to early forties begins "middle age".


If and or when average life expectancy reaches 100, then you can bump up "middle age" to one's fifties.
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Old 05-05-2017, 02:56 PM
 
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You're putting UAW line workers in the same category as bank tellers? Many make 6 figures don't know any bank tellers that do. Assembly line workers for Fortune 500 companies usually make very good money.
Perhaps you should think less and try to readalot more. I didn't write "UAW line workers". What I did write, and your post actually bolsters, is that there are several criteria to consider. Surely you know there are many non-skilled assembly-line workers paid relatively low wages, no? As I also wrote, and as the example I provided illustrates, it's not as simple as the work one does or their job title. That was my entire point. Much like someone else mentioned, though police officers and firefighters are generally considered middle-class, some have a much higher income. This is true of any number of careers. There are waiters who make 6 figures.
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