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Old 06-08-2017, 08:31 PM
 
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What I mean by that is I would rather have someone I disagree with to fight against than to be surrounded by an echo chamber where everyone agrees with me. I'd rather have a boss that I don't like that I'm constantly trying to undermine their authority than one that I actually get along with. I like calling people out on their BS. A user posted a quote on one of my old threads that summed up my attitude 100 times better than I ever could have: " I'm what you call the trouble maker... I don't keep quiet. I learn everything about the place and use it against them for my and my coworkers benefit."

I'd rather talk with people who disagree with me, or read articles that don't share my viewpoint than to just hear my sentiments echoed back to me. I like tearing what they're saying apart and stating all the reasons why what they're saying is wrong and why I don't agree with their way of thinking.

What do you guys think about this?
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Old 06-08-2017, 09:04 PM
 
Location: State of Denial
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As little as possible...
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Old 06-09-2017, 04:40 AM
 
Location: On the Beach
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Grateful that I don't know you?
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Old 06-09-2017, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Finally the house is done and we are in Port St. Lucie!
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Grateful that I don't know you?
All the above.
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Old 06-09-2017, 06:40 AM
Status: "This too shall pass. But possibly, like a kidney stone." (set 2 days ago)
 
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You probably don't realize this, OP, but you suck the energy out of every room you go in to.

A lot of people gravitate to people they might disagree with, or read articles they probably won't agree with, but it's to answer the question, "am I missing something?" "could they be right"? "should I consider this again?"

Ugh.
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Old 06-09-2017, 06:49 AM
 
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You sound terribly unpleasant. Who wants to be around someone who is always looking to score points off their friends?

You should talk to a therapist. Only reason I say that is because it doesn't seem like a recipe for a very happy life or meaningful relationships. I hang with people who like to argue, but the point isn't to tear each other down - it's to learn and explore. With the advent of smartphones, we can get pretty deep into the weeds, googling different facts and figures. It's an intellectual exercise though, not a brawl.

Or you can use your powers for good. I'm very good at arguing in writing. I joke to people I'm the "facebook bouncer" because friends who know I'm a decent writer with a lot of background knowledge on various topics will often ask me to come and end a conflict on their page. A buddy who didn't want to argue with family had me settle a political dispute - I came in with sourced links and laid out the case and left. The argument kinda stopped. Another was dealing with a close relative who was bullying her, and I just kind of questioned him into submission. He was embarrassed when I laid his hostility bare and quickly backed off.

But it sounds like you're causing other people distress for the sake of your own satisfaction/entertainment. That's simply not cool and smacks of narcissism.
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Old 06-09-2017, 07:15 AM
 
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What I mean by that is I would rather have someone I disagree with to fight against than to be surrounded by an echo chamber where everyone agrees with me. I'd rather have a boss that I don't like that I'm constantly trying to undermine their authority than one that I actually get along with. I like calling people out on their BS. A user posted a quote on one of my old threads that summed up my attitude 100 times better than I ever could have: " I'm what you call the trouble maker... I don't keep quiet. I learn everything about the place and use it against them for my and my coworkers benefit."

I'd rather talk with people who disagree with me, or read articles that don't share my viewpoint than to just hear my sentiments echoed back to me. I like tearing what they're saying apart and stating all the reasons why what they're saying is wrong and why I don't agree with their way of thinking.

What do you guys think about this?
Interesting use of language. Rather revealing, in fact.

Mature, intelligent people will exchange differing views in a respectful way without fighting, undermining authority, or calling them out on their BS. What's more, mature, intelligent people don't strut around all day thinking about how they are right and the other person is wrong. Instead, 99% of all issues don't yield to a simplistic Black/White/Right/Wrong dichotomy. Instead, they are more about gray areas and the requirements of the moment. Mature people are comfortable with uncertainty and unresolvable questions.

Even when you manage to bludgeon someone into submission, you haven't won them over. You've just become so tedious that they're tired of dealing with you. And, quite likely, you've made an enemy.

The way you wrote this communicates a good deal of latent hostility, suffused with a bit of officiousness and arrogance. I can't imagine you're a lot of fun to be around.

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Old 06-09-2017, 07:16 AM
 
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I guess the world needs devil's advocates.


Seems lonely...but if it makes you happy, enjoy your little kingdom on the hill I guess.
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Old 06-09-2017, 08:05 AM
 
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What I mean by that is I would rather have someone I disagree with to fight against than to be surrounded by an echo chamber where everyone agrees with me. I'd rather have a boss that I don't like that I'm constantly trying to undermine their authority than one that I actually get along with. I like calling people out on their BS. A user posted a quote on one of my old threads that summed up my attitude 100 times better than I ever could have: " I'm what you call the trouble maker... I don't keep quiet. I learn everything about the place and use it against them for my and my coworkers benefit."

I'd rather talk with people who disagree with me, or read articles that don't share my viewpoint than to just hear my sentiments echoed back to me. I like tearing what they're saying apart and stating all the reasons why what they're saying is wrong and why I don't agree with their way of thinking.

What do you guys think about this?
You'll get no argument from me.
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Old 06-09-2017, 08:11 AM
 
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So you are employed?

Do you find people trying to avoid you? Do you have any friends?

No offense but this is how usually how I find alcoholics behave after many years of drinking. There mind is gone and they only argue for the sake of arguing. After being pointed out this many years ago in counseling, now I walk away.
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