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Old 02-27-2018, 06:53 PM
 
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I have talked to literally hundreds of Mexicans and Mexican Americans, many times even in their native tongue, and they are almost universally proud of their Mexican heritage.
Bully for them. I still know you haven't polled all of them, so having never heard it before is meaningless. I've heard it before.

 
Old 02-27-2018, 06:59 PM
 
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My friend, whose parents are from Mexico, also says he is Spanish. He is of Spanish Ancestry, is what he means. Not Spanish Nationality. Like if I say I am Irish, I don't mean I am a citizen of Ireland.
I'm curious.

Your friend prefers to be referred to as Spanish rather than Mexican?

Does he correct others who characterize him as Mexican?

Were his parents born in Spain?

Where was he born?

Is he an American citizen?
 
Old 02-27-2018, 07:00 PM
 
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Bully for them. I still know you haven't polled all of them, so having never heard it before is meaningless. I've heard it before.
I'm not claiming to have the results of a comprehensive peer-reviewed study. We're just chatting and sharing personal experiences.
 
Old 02-27-2018, 07:02 PM
 
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I'm not claiming to have the results of a comprehensive peer-reviewed study. We're just chatting and sharing personal experiences.
And I shared with you a few reasons why some prefer this.
 
Old 02-27-2018, 07:05 PM
 
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I'm curious.

Your friend prefers to be referred to as Spanish rather than Mexican?

Does he correct others who characterize him as Mexican?

Were his parents born in Spain?

Where was he born?

Is he an American citizen?
Why would he be Mexican? His family is from Mexico. He isn't. He's American of Spanish ancestry. Of course he corrects people who call him by a NATIONALITY that isn't correct. People talk about 'Mexicans' like it's a race or ethnicity, which it is not.

The ethnicity would be 'hispanic', or some would prefer their specific nation of their ancestors. Like ........... Spain!
 
Old 02-27-2018, 07:07 PM
 
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Why would he be Mexican? His family is from Mexico. He isn't. He's American of Spanish ancestry. Of course he corrects people who call him by a NATIONALITY that isn't correct. People talk about 'Mexicans' like it's a race or ethnicity, which it is not.

The ethnicity would be 'hispanic', or some would prefer their specific nation of their ancestors. Like ........... Spain!
Got it.

Were his parents born in Spain?
 
Old 02-27-2018, 07:10 PM
 
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Got it.

Were his parents born in Spain?
No, but what does that have to do with it? You keep confusing ancestry with nationality. His parents were born in Mexico, which made them Mexican Citizens, and then American Citizens, but that does not alter their Spanish ancestry, nor does that make him Mexican.
 
Old 02-27-2018, 07:12 PM
 
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Why would he be Mexican? His family is from Mexico. He isn't. He's American of Spanish ancestry. Of course he corrects people who call him by a NATIONALITY that isn't correct. People talk about 'Mexicans' like it's a race or ethnicity, which it is not.

The ethnicity would be 'hispanic', or some would prefer their specific nation of their ancestors. Like ........... Spain!
To clarify the topic of this thread, I am talking about a co-worker who says that she knows some Mexican-Americans who prefer to be referred to as Spanish.

I don't think your friend qualifies for this category.
 
Old 02-27-2018, 07:14 PM
 
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Ahem. They're two different countries. It would be like an American saying he prefers to be called British.
 
Old 02-27-2018, 07:14 PM
 
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Spaniards[a] are a nation and ethnic group indigenous to Spain that share a common Spanish culture and speak one of the national languages of Spain, including most numerously Spanish, as a primary language.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaniards

He is making clear he is of this ethnic group, primarily (imo) because 'Mexican's erroneously used as a name for an ethnic group have a negative connotation to many people in America, but it could also be he just wants to be accurate. There is nothing 'Mexican' about him.
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