Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > North Carolina
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 09-27-2012, 01:14 PM
 
Location: NC
2,905 posts, read 5,919,154 times
Reputation: 2152

Advertisements

May make some people upset, but makes me happy as a small business owner...for this year they're exempting the first $50K of non-passive income (net). Married business owners can double it to $100K.

Article:

New loophole for businesses will cost North Carolina $336M a year | CharlotteObserver.com

Some details (consult an accountant for more - I'm not an accountant!):

Pay no tax on the first $50,000 of net business income starting with the 2012 tax year! That’s right; many North Carolina business owners will become eligible for an up to $50,000 North Carolina income tax write-off thanks to the recent passage of North Carolina House Bill 200 and North Carolina Senate Bill 267.

Qualifications to Write-off the North Carolina $50,000 Tax Deduction
The new North Carolina deduction for business owners allow a single business owner to deduct up to $50,000 of net business income included on the federal return that is not considered passive. Married business owners can deduct up to $50,000 each. Typically business owners who report income on federal Schedule C, E, and/or F are eligible for the North Carolina $50,000 tax deduction.


North Carolina Passive vs. Non-Passive Income Definitions
So what exactly is passive income? North Carolina defers to the Internal Revenue Code (IRC), specifically Internal Revenue Code 469, to define passive income. Generally, passive activities are business activities in which there is material participation. Per IRS guidance, “you materially participate in an activity if you are involved in the operation of the activity on a regular, continuous, and substantial basis”. However there are very specific rules, especially for real estate professionals. IRS Publication 925, Passive Activity and At-Risk Rules, provides a plain language examples of passive activities.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 09-27-2012, 01:26 PM
 
9,196 posts, read 24,927,777 times
Reputation: 8585
Yeah, this was the one termed "deduction for rich law firm partners" during the budgeting process.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-27-2012, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Wake County, NC
27 posts, read 53,967 times
Reputation: 42
Sweet! I'm also a small business owner but had no idea this had been passed. Thanks for the post!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-27-2012, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
2,932 posts, read 7,820,952 times
Reputation: 1419
Now alls I need is $500k to by a small business
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-28-2012, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Sneads Ferry, NC
13,368 posts, read 27,015,812 times
Reputation: 6980
Does it count if you are collecting rent on a house?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-28-2012, 06:40 AM
 
Location: NC
2,905 posts, read 5,919,154 times
Reputation: 2152
Quote:
Originally Posted by CHTransplant View Post
Yeah, this was the one termed "deduction for rich law firm partners" during the budgeting process.
I'm certainly not a "rich law firm partner" or anywhere near it, but I'll take the credit.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DieselRunner View Post
Sweet! I'm also a small business owner but had no idea this had been passed. Thanks for the post!


Quote:
Originally Posted by JQ Public View Post
Now alls I need is $500k to by a small business
Lots of small businesses cost less than that. In fact you can start one from scratch. Hurry up and start one with next to nothing, then earn $50k and pay no tax. You still have 3 full months left

Quote:
Originally Posted by goldenage1 View Post
Does it count if you are collecting rent on a house?
Collecting rent is typically considered passive income, so just by that alone my guess (again I'm not an accountant so you should really consult one for this) is no. On top of that unless you have incorporated the business or at least have a partnership or LLP on the books my guess on that part is also no.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-29-2012, 05:36 AM
 
Location: Inactive Account
1,508 posts, read 2,977,206 times
Reputation: 970
Just a quick assumption, but if you are not a "professional landlord" (someone that spends the majority of his time managing properties) then it's not a true small business. Becoming professional has implictions on the Federal forms too, so it's not to be taken lightly.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-29-2012, 02:20 PM
 
2,603 posts, read 5,017,960 times
Reputation: 1959
Welfare for the wealthy at the state level.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-29-2012, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Inactive Account
1,508 posts, read 2,977,206 times
Reputation: 970
Since it's the first $50,000 exempted, this is a progressive tax, so it helps both wealthy and non-wealthy businesspeople.

Starting new businesses is hard on many levels, so I see this as a good thing. Large corporations are being stingy with hiring right now, so we need more start-ups.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-29-2012, 02:53 PM
 
2,603 posts, read 5,017,960 times
Reputation: 1959
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean_CLT View Post
Since it's the first $50,000 exempted, this is a progressive tax, so it helps both wealthy and non-wealthy businesspeople.

Starting new businesses is hard on many levels, so I see this as a good thing. Large corporations are being stingy with hiring right now, so we need more start-ups.
I understand that opening a business is hard and risky. But they should have had a much lower cap on it for it to truly be progressive. The bill allows business with up to $850,000 in revenue to qualify. That's a lot of very law partners and business owners getting $3,500 checks there while the state is laying off teachers (who don't get the $3,500), increasing tuition, and reducing court services. This is going to cost the state a lot of money and benefit a select few.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Settings
X
Data:
Loading data...
Based on 2000-2020 data
Loading data...

123
Hide US histogram


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > North Carolina
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top