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As someone who is considering leaving the DC area to settle with a new family in so called "Best place to raise a family" NC, this is disturbing.
There are literally dozens of states that treat teachers significantly better and in which education levels are much higher. If that's what you value, even if NC is "home", you shouldn't move there.
I suspect that the major cities will compensate for the State's negligence towards education, but I think they're also worried that anything they attempt to do to make things better here for teachers, or students, or minorities will be met with animosity and retribution from the general assembly.
I suspect that the major cities will compensate for the State's negligence towards education, but I think they're also worried that anything they attempt to do to make things better here for teachers, or students, or minorities will be met with animosity and retribution from the general assembly.
I agree with your first sentence, I hope this current GA will get voted out next year before they do any further damage to education!
Last edited by prwfromnc; 08-15-2013 at 06:21 PM..
I suspect that the major cities will compensate for the State's negligence towards education, but I think they're also worried that anything they attempt to do to make things better here for teachers, or students, or minorities will be met with animosity and retribution from the general assembly.
Yep. They surely haven't shown an antipathy towards dabbling in local matters when it suits their agenda. So much for being anti-"big government."
Hamish Forbes - "For the record, there is no state religion."
Not for lack of trying. The hard right North Carolina GOP "law makers" had to be taught remedial law/politics, that establishing an official religion is unconstitutional. This is something that any high school student should know. Looks like they could have used a little of that education that they are currently torpedoing.
Last edited by VASpaceMan; 08-16-2013 at 07:59 AM..
Hamish Forbes writes: "The idea that high-tech employers are going to leave the state is simply ridiculous, and shows just about zero understanding of business or of human nature."
Oh, really? So, riddle me this Batman, why aren't high tech companies and the highly educated flocked to low cost, low tax areas like Mississippi, Alabama, and large swaths of cheap and "business friendly" land in most of the South? Why do they continue to flock to high cost, tax areas like San Fran, Silicon Valley, Seattle, Portland, DC area, Chicago, New York? As much as Fox News drones like to cheerfully parrot how California is in the toliet, they seem to be completely ignorant of the fact that the Bay Area is one of the only parts of the country that is currently doing amazing. It continues to be the innovation engine of the US (and the world) even through a bad national and global economy. Looks like someone is 'showing just about zero understanding' of infrastructure and how business grows from it.
Don't think too hard about this, you might experience a short circuit.
Last edited by VASpaceMan; 08-16-2013 at 08:01 AM..
I suspect that the major cities will compensate for the State's negligence towards education, but I think they're also worried that anything they attempt to do to make things better here for teachers, or students, or minorities will be met with animosity and retribution from the general assembly.
Hamish Forbes writes: "The idea that high-tech employers are going to leave the state is simply ridiculous, and shows just about zero understanding of business or of human nature."
Oh, really? So, riddle me this Batman, why aren't high tech companies and the highly educated flocked to low cost, low tax areas like Mississippi, Alabama, and large swaths of cheap and "business friendly" land in most of the South? Why do they continue to flock to high cost, tax areas like San Fran, Silicon Valley, Seattle, Portland, DC area, Chicago, New York? As much as Fox News drones like to cheerfully parrot how California is in the toliet, they seem to be completely ignorant of the fact that the Bay Area is one of the only parts of the country that is currently doing amazing. It continues to be the innovation engine of the US (and the world) even though a bad national and global economy. Looks like someone is 'showing just about zero understanding' of infrastructure and how business grows from it.
Don't think too hard about this, you might experience a short circuit.
Yes, really. I wonder -- have you ever been in high-tech management at any level of real responsibility, or have you not yet progressed beyond being an individual-contributor or "team leader?"
High-tech has come here because of the low-cost, technically-trained workforce, the existence of RTP, and the presence of the three universities which draw-in H1B candidates as grad students, among other things. This has little to do with local politics, and nothing to do with liberal politics or spoiled-brat culture. In some cases, high-tech companies have come here in the past specifically because of the anti-union nature of traditional NC culture. For example, IBM came here in part for just that reason, and further ensured that they had a never-used railroad spur into their first RTP campus in order to preclude union activity disrupting access.
You might know more about this if you really had any roots here. Until it became convenient to try to claim such roots while engaged in histrionics about coming home to defend your state against the bogey man, you have claimed in other threads that you were born and raised in Virginia, specifically HR or Norfolk. Moreover, your CD profile makes no mention of ever having lived here. If you indeed had any roots here, or any long-term sense of what was going on, you would understand that the state has always been fairly evenly divided in its politics -- for example, we had Terry Sanford and Jesse Helms in the Senate at the same time -- and that the present political situation can reverse quite quickly.
Last edited by Hamish Forbes; 08-16-2013 at 08:30 AM..
Not that it's really any of your business, but I have family in rural parts of North Carolina, in Raleigh, and Charlotte. As for your attempted attack on my career, I'm a program manager (have been a software engineer, network administrator, database admin, data analyst) and most of my career has been in aerospace, including NASA. So, nice try, but you're going to have to take your trolling elsewhere.
I noticed you didn't really address the issue. Have you had your first cup of coffeee yet?
Last edited by VASpaceMan; 08-16-2013 at 08:47 AM..
I have addressed the issue straight-on -- as I explained above, our history clearly shows that politics has no effect on high-tech employment, lab location, or hiring. You evidently have no knowledge of this history, never having lived or worked in this state by your own admission, and never really having had any significant management experience.
Instead, you have resorted to calling me a troll (oh, horrors), and talking about short-circuits in my brain, because I disagree with you and think that your point of view on this issue is completely juvenile. Do you really think that cisco will apportion its upcoming layoffs according to local politics? Do you really think that IBM gives a rat's patoot about the new legislature in Raleigh?
So instead of trying to project venom at me, try to learn something: educate your self on the two Senators that I mentioned above, look at the record of our recently departed Democrat Governor Mike Easley, for example, look at how the state voted for Obama and then against him, and try to find some causation with regard to the high-tech climate here. You won't find any causation at all, but a least you will become able to talk about the issues from a better-informed perspective.
Last edited by Hamish Forbes; 08-16-2013 at 09:54 AM..
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