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As a female baby boomer I have been on the receiving end of discrimination a few too many times to say, sure, folks will do the right thing without laws. It's pretty simple. No they won't. They try to get away with discrimination even with the laws. That's the reason for the gender gap between Democrats & Republicans.
So the law says a business cannot refuse you service. Why would you want to give your hard earned money to a business that is bigoted against you. I for one would not, and I would encourage my friends to follow my lead. Margins in business are narrow enough that if 10% of the market is automatically turned off most businesses will fail.
If I were a gay business owner I'd be furious that other gay people are actively seeking out businesses who do not cater to my lifestyle.
Sorry I guess I just do not have faith in the government hammer to bash bigotry out of society.
^ Rich, in theory what you say sounds reasonable. But in practice, not so much. What happens when there's only one doctor in a small town, and he refuses to treat gay people?
Or a racist mechanic refuses to service your car, so you have to go to the dealership that charges 50% more for the same work? Or the local electric utility threatens to cut off service to a black family for a late payment, while white families are routinely allowed to keep their service when they are 4 or 5 payments behind?
There are real-life consequences when governments fail to protect their citizens from discrimination.
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So the law says a business cannot refuse you service. Why would you want to give your hard earned money to a business that is bigoted against you. I for one would not, and I would encourage my friends to follow my lead. Margins in business are narrow enough that if 10% of the market is automatically turned off most businesses will fail.
If I were a gay business owner I'd be furious that other gay people are actively seeking out businesses who do not cater to my lifestyle.
Sorry I guess I just do not have faith in the government hammer to bash bigotry out of society.
I can think of one major company that refused to hired me when I got out of college because "You're a girl." in spite of the ad having been run in the "help wanted male or female ads". Oops that was a mistake, was the answer. I didn't buy their products for about 20 years, & still rarely do. The effect? - none
I've had bosses tell me, with no witness present, You should be home making babies, not taking a job from a man, in spite of EEOC laws. In each case I was qualified for the job, sometimes more qualified than my male colleagues.
Nah, ain't buying it. The laws are there for darned good reasons. They are there for so many infractions on so many levels. . .but if they never had an effect on you, well, I can understand that you'd find them annoying.
Uh, the US Constitution already establishes the right to free speech, and to equal treatment under the law. Please tell us why this proposed bill is necessary.
I think you should re-read my post and the one I was responding to.
Nothing in the law restricts it to "public accommodations", and you are right all should be treated fairly. This law will make it legal to not do so.
Granted I haven't read NC's proposal, but I'm thinking of Indiana's law which gives businesses (which fall under public accommodations) extra "protection."
^ Rich, in theory what you say sounds reasonable. But in practice, not so much. What happens when there's only one doctor in a small town, and he refuses to treat gay people?
Or a racist mechanic refuses to service your car, so you have to go to the dealership that charges 50% more for the same work? Or the local electric utility threatens to cut off service to a black family for a late payment, while white families are routinely allowed to keep their service when they are 4 or 5 payments behind?
There are real-life consequences when governments fail to protect their citizens from discrimination.
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I have more faith in the government to do it than I do Facebook.
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So if the law is passed, I wonder what happens if someone cites religious reasons to deny service to women or someone from another race.
That's it exactly. Yeah I had a boss who told me that by his religious convictions I should be at home, barefoot & pregnant. This is about gays on the surface. It's about the last 50 years. Gays are the last frontier.
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