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Old 02-06-2014, 02:18 PM
 
Location: The 12th State
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A report just released shows that the Dan River is "highly toxic" and contains "high levels" of toxic metals after 82,000 tons of coal ash flowed into the river from a Duke Energy coal plant.

A certified laboratory analysis of water samples taken from the Dan River on Feb. 4 reveal that the water immediately downstream of Duke Energy’s ash spill is “contaminated with extremely high levels of arsenic, chromium, iron, lead and other toxic metals” typically found in coal ash."

Waterkeeper Alliance also found a lead concentration in the polluted water of 0.129 mg/L.
Lead is another metal commonly found in toxic coal ash.
Lead poisoning can cause developmental delays and permanent damage in exposed infants and children, as well as kidney damage and high blood pressure in adults.
In very high doses, lead poisoning can cause death.

Levels of other contaminants found in the sampling just below the discharge include: Manganese: .576 mg/L; Boron: .314 mg/L; Calcium: 34.7 mg/L; Zinc: .224 mg/L; and Iron: 84.6 mg/L.

If a terrorist group committed in North Carolina – for ideological reasons – a crime that Duke Energy has committed for profit, our nation would consider it an act of war against our country.

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Old 02-06-2014, 03:34 PM
 
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If a terrorist group committed in North Carolina – for ideological reasons – a crime that Duke Energy has committed for profit, our nation would consider it an act of war against our country.
Wow, hyperbole much? How is a broken stormwater pipe a crime? You make it sound like they dumped the ash in the river on purpose. Why don't you put down your pitchfork until an investigation is complete.

Duke Energy plant reports coal-ash spill | CharlotteObserver.com
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Old 02-06-2014, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Winston-Salem
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Sunny may have expressed a bit of hyperbole, but negligence is just about as bad in my book.

This pond has been problematic for some time. From the article you linked:

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Independent engineers who inspected the pond’s dam in 2009 for the
Environmental Protection Agency found it in good condition, but they noted some
seepage and recommended a stability study on the structure’s river side. Built
in 1956, it was divided into two ponds in the 1970s

The report said the dam had “significant hazard potential” if it were
breached, mainly for property and environmental damage.
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Old 02-07-2014, 12:26 AM
 
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Sunny may have expressed a bit of hyperbole, but negligence is just about as bad in my book.

This pond has been problematic for some time. From the article you linked:
What you quoted is standard risk assessment language. If there is criminal negligence then charge them. At present we don't have enough info to make that determination.
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Old 02-07-2014, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Winston-Salem
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If there is criminal negligence then charge them. At present we don't have enough info to make that determination.
And who is "we"? Are you involved in this case?
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Old 02-08-2014, 06:04 AM
 
Location: The 12th State
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It good Duke plans to clean this up but I can bet they are going to ask for a rate increase so we all pay for it.

The Duke representative told city officials that special materials which are not immediately available are needed to plug the leak. The problem requires a unique engineering solution.

“You can’t just run out there and cap the end and think you’ve got it solved.”
Right now, Duke’s plan is to plug both the break in the storm water pipe itself and plug the end of the pipe that runs into the river, damming the area of the coal ash pond around the pipe with stone to let engineers work on the pipe itself and keep the water that fills the pond off the breach in the plug.
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Old 02-08-2014, 06:28 AM
 
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This could happen at Mountain Island Lake. Directly upstream from our drinking water supply intake is where Riverbend tucks their [con-compliant] coal ash lagoons. Lagoons which have been show to be leaking into the river already. Lagoons which have been shown to be non-compliant with their State-issued discharge permits.
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Old 02-09-2014, 04:28 PM
 
Location: The 12th State
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No surprise, No surprise.

North Carolina's environmental agency said it was wrong to declare the arsenic levels in the Dan River safe for people after a massive coal ash spill.

The state Department of Environment and Natural Resources said Sunday a water sample taken two days after the spill was four times higher than the maximum level for people to have prolonged contact.
Officials say the water treatment plant in Danville, Va., is removing the arsenic and other toxins from the water.
Duke Energy said it permanently plugged the leak Saturday, six days after it was discovered. Duke said up to 82,000 tons of ash from a coal-burning power plant mixed with 27 million gallons of contaminated water escaped.

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Old 02-09-2014, 06:57 PM
 
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It good Duke plans to clean this up but I can bet they are going to ask for a rate increase so we all pay for it.
They're going up anyway due to federal pollution mandates and the increased compliance costs.

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And who is "we"? Are you involved in this case?
The "we" is everyone who is willing to throw aside facts or the rule of law and automatically assume criminal negligence for an industrial accident. No I am not involved.
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Old 02-10-2014, 05:55 AM
 
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The "we" is everyone who is willing to throw aside facts or the rule of law and automatically assume criminal negligence for an industrial accident. No I am not involved.
Uh, not sure if you realize it, but the rule of law is what DEFINES criminal activities, including negligence.

So it's impossible to throw out the rule of law if one is charging criminal negligence. Facts are required...
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