Section 8 in NEPA (house, live, store)

[Lehigh Valley Native]

Originally Posted by TheHighHat

LeighValleyNative,

Since you are so passionate out this cause, maybe you can adovacate Section 8 housing in where you live. BTW, who regulates them as far as drug dealing etc. If most are drug dealing avenues as yo

So you want to keep them out because they are poor and you don't see a problem with that? It isn't any different if you wanted to keep them out because they are <insert a minority>.
I never said I was "passionate" about the cause.

[I LOVE PA!]

It sounds to me like some people don't want to live near the poor. I personally have met some good friends here in Pa and many have been on some form of assistance including Section 8 housing.

[tinman01]

Originally Posted by I LOVE PA!

It sounds to me like some people don't want to live near the poor. I personally have met some good friends here in Pa and many have been on some form of assistance including Section 8 housing.

Orrrrr It could be that someone bought a home invested a fair amount of money into their investment and don't want to see it devalued. This is the reality of having section 8 move into your area or next door to your home. Its nothing against the poor in general. The reality is that unfortunately section 8 carries with it many whose morals are questionable. Its no secret that in Wilkes-barre a high percent of their crime is in their low income sections. Yes the section 8's and the lowincome developments.

[hopbottomhal]

Originally Posted by Guywithacause

HopBottom..the Bronx section of Jackson Street? You mean they are selling $750,000 condos, renting $2,000 loft apts, and revitalizing the entire district? Please provide more details about the area....if it is really the Bronx of the area...it is a place I would like to keep an eye on. Thanks for the info.

It's the long time residents of Jackson Street who refer to the 300 block as the "Bronx Section." It has to do with demographics and the proliferation of duplexes gone section 8. No $750,000 condos to be had there.

[I LOVE PA!]

Originally Posted by tinman01

Orrrrr It could be that someone bought a home invested a fair amount of money into their investment and don't want to see it devalued. This is the reality of having section 8 move into your area or next door to your home. Its nothing against the poor in general. The reality is that unfortunately section 8 carries with it many whose morals are questionable. Its no secret that in Wilkes-barre a high percent of their crime is in their low income sections. Yes the section 8's and the lowincome developments.

It odesn't sound to me like some are concerned with them living next door, it sound like they are concerned with them living in the same town. I agree.. I wouldn't want a Section 8 housing development right in my backyard either. I understand the concerns that you present here.

[BLUEDIAMOND64]

Originally Posted by tinman01

Orrrrr It could be that someone bought a home invested a fair amount of money into their investment and don't want to see it devalued. This is the reality of having section 8 move into your area or next door to your home. Its nothing against the poor in general. The reality is that unfortunately section 8 carries with it many whose morals are questionable. Its no secret that in Wilkes-barre a high percent of their crime is in their low income sections. Yes the section 8's and the lowincome developments.

Yes, tinman, exactly. I have seen Section 8 that is exclusively for Senior Housing and there seems to be very little problem. The problems come when there are children and there are no parents to supervise. You can be poor and still have PRIDE with how you live. Just because you are poor you can still value what you own. This rarely happens. Personally, I have nothing against the poor, however the issues come in when it starts to bring down the property values near you.

[BLUEDIAMOND64]

Originally Posted by Lehigh Valley Native

So you want to keep them out because they are poor and you don't see a problem with that? It isn't any different if you wanted to keep them out because they are <insert a minority>.
I never said I was "passionate" about the cause.

It has nothing to do with "being" poor. It has to do with the crime, drug dealing and devaluing property. I never said anything about minority, but YOU did. Your the advocate so maybe you should get involved for the cause and invite subsidized housing into your neighborhood.

[BLUEDIAMOND64]

Oh, and by the way, my grandparents lived in the South Bronx years ago. Learned the language, worked 15 hours a day. They were poor people, did not receive any handouts, section 8 or anything else. The one thing they had was pride in what they owned. They instilled great values in their children and didn't use the excuse of "being poor" to cause problems in Society.

[greentown]

Originally Posted by tinman01

Orrrrr It could be that someone bought a home invested a fair amount of money into their investment and don't want to see it devalued. This is the reality of having section 8 move into your area or next door to your home. Its nothing against the poor in general. The reality is that unfortunately section 8 carries with it many whose morals are questionable. Its no secret that in Wilkes-barre a high percent of their crime is in their low income sections. Yes the section 8's and the lowincome developments.

My parents went through this many times renting to families on housing. My mother, who is soft-hearted, would listen to the sob story and allow them to move into a newly-remodeled trailer. After about six months the place was trashed, windows broken, appliances not working, cars going up and down the driveway at all hours of the day and night, no oil in the tank. Then try to evict them - landlords have to follow the letter of the law to try to get the scumbags out, while they continue to damage the property out of spite. Thankfully, my mother finally had enough and stopping accepting housing. It's sad, and I know there are many families who are decent and just need some help, but somehow they were only attracting the losers. I guess since they aren't paying the rent or mortgage, they have no pride in how it looks.

[BLUEDIAMOND64]

Originally Posted by greentown

My parents went through this many times renting to families on housing. My mother, who is soft-hearted, would listen to the sob story and allow them to move into a newly-remodeled trailer. After about six months the place was trashed, windows broken, appliances not working, cars going up and down the driveway at all hours of the day and night, no oil in the tank. Then try to evict them - landlords have to follow the letter of the law to try to get the scumbags out, while they continue to damage the property out of spite. Thankfully, my mother finally had enough and stopping accepting housing. It's sad, and I know there are many families who are decent and just need some help, but somehow they were only attracting the losers. I guess since they aren't paying the rent or mortgage, they have no pride in how it looks.

Greentown, I agree with your post and have seen this so many times. There are some families who really need the help and are decent but they are few and far between. And, I agree their attitude is "rent" and have no pride where they live, but the sad part is that they have no pride in themselves.

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