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"Tysons' future is urban; deal with it," said Dr. Robert Cervero, city and regional planning professor at the University of California at Berkeley who has had extensive involvement in the redesign. He noted that placemaking (transforming Tysons into an attractive place to live) remains a large challenge, but maintained that the good thing about its vast amounts of surface parking is that they serve as "land banking," making strategic infill easier."
"Tysons Corner is poised to become North America's only example of a former sprawling edge city becoming a fully-fledged downtown in its own right. Making it successful — a task to which developers, nearby residents and government leaders are committed — will be a key step on the way to making our fast-growing region more livable and sustainable."
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And that's only if the economy fully rebounds. This isn't 2005.
This meeting just took place this month. The Tyson's Corner 4 silver line metro stations are on schedule to be up and running in 2013. The developers have already started building. D.C. didn't really get hit by the recession so that may apply everywhere else but not really to D.C. projects. By the way, my intent is not to be insensitive to the rest of the country that is suffering, I was just stating the facts.
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The fact is Tyson's Corner will not surpass Seattle, and certainly not in 2030 by any stretch of the imagination, no matter what some biased DC urban writer says. Seattle's CBD already gos from the stadiums up to Denny Way, almost 2 miles. It is currently growing beyond that north into South Lake Union up to Mercer St. Seattle's CBD is not slouching and in fact still growing, and will no way be surpassed by a growing edge city. In fact one of Seattle's edge cities, Bellevue (http://mappery.com/map-of/Tourist-ma...ntown-Bellevue) is growing just as qucikly as Tyson's Corner with simalar patterns. Use a better example.
Downtown Seattle
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The fact is Tyson's Corner will not surpass Seattle, and certainly not in 2030 by any stretch of the imagination. Seattle's CBD already gos from the stadiums up to Denny Way, almost 2 miles. It is currently growing north into South Lake Union up to Mercer St. Seattle's CBD is not slouching and in fact still growing, and will no way be surpassed by a growing edge city. In fact one of Seattle's edge cities, Bellevue (Tourist map of Downtown Bellevue - bellevue washington) is growing just as qucikly as Tyson's Corner with simalar patterns. Use a better example.
Downtown Seattle
This is about CBD office space only. Tyson's Corner CBD has 33,278,014 sq. feet of office space now. That is expected to double by 2030 to over 60,000,000 sq. feet of office space. I don't think downtown Houston or Settle have plans to add that much office space with Houston at 35,345,454 sq. feet of office space currently and Seattle at 44,176,451 sq. feet of office space right now. The boundaries for all these cities are set by experts and that is who projects Tyson's Corner to move from number 12 in the nation currently to number 7 in 2030. It is projected to have over a 200,000 person downtown workforce population and 100,000 downtown residents. Growth experts for CBD office space are the ones who project the growth for these cities and make the CBD boudaries. You will have to take that up with them. Tyson's Corner is bigger than downtown Settle at 4.9 square miles and almost the whole thing will be a downtown so I don't understand what you are talking about. I'm just relaying the plans anyway so you could always ask or email the urban planners that are designing it.
This is the before and after plan around one of the four metro station's in Tyson's Corner. It will give you a better perspective on the development that has begun there. There will be three more area's with the same amount of development:
One of the four metro station development area's under construction in Tyson's Corner in 2010:
Same area in Tyson's Corner in 2030:
All Four Area's:
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Houston's Texas Medical Center is poised to surpass Downtown Houston, too to become the 7th largest business district in the country. So its not really all that amazing that this is taking place but I am happy that this is going through in the Washington DC area.
An excerpt on Texas Medical Center as it will pass Downtown Dallas (2012), Downtown Houston & Downtown Los Angeles (2014):
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"The most recent survey of commercial office space in major downtown business districts in this country shows that the Texas Medical Center ranks No. 12 in the nation, exceeding Los Angeles," said Bob Stott, Texas Medical Center executive vice president for planning and development. "By 2014, we’re expected to rank No. 7, just under Philadelphia."
The fact is Tyson's Corner will not surpass Seattle, and certainly not in 2030 by any stretch of the imagination, no matter what some biased DC urban writer says. Seattle's CBD already gos from the stadiums up to Denny Way, almost 2 miles. It is currently growing beyond that north into South Lake Union up to Mercer St. Seattle's CBD is not slouching and in fact still growing, and will no way be surpassed by a growing edge city. In fact one of Seattle's edge cities, Bellevue (Tourist map of Downtown Bellevue - bellevue washington) is growing just as qucikly as Tyson's Corner with simalar patterns. Use a better example.
Downtown Seattle
I doubt it will pass Houston's as well. We a currently undergoing a massive rail project that adds four lines by 2012(ish) and all but one will connect to our current CBD.
This whole argument seems to make the assumption that downtown Seattle and Houston won't add any office space or grow between now and 2030...
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