11-25-2014, 05:55 PM
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I love the way Northern Virginians always interpret "outdoorsy" as meaning that you can, if you are determined, find a couple of biking and kayaking options locally. Clearly you have never lived in the Pacific Northwest, which is actually "outdoorsy."
11-25-2014, 06:04 PM
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There are a lot of outdoor activities in the DC area. Also, Arlington is one if the most bike oriented places in the country. Your whole second paragraph was BS
No, it wasn't. I bike. I hike. I swim. I am "outdoorsy." I have lived in outdoorsy places. This is not one of them. I can't ride my bike anywhere near my home safely - the only place I can actually ride at any decent speed, safely, is WO&D, and I have to put my bike on a rack and drive it there, which takes 20 minutes. What difference does it make if Arlington is bike friendly if I live in Fairfax? And hiking? No serious hiking is happening without at least an hour drive. I am not talking about a little paved path full of strollers and lap dogs, so please don't bring up all the great hiking places in NoVa, which look just like that. Last place I lived, I could walk outside my house and have my choice of two different mountains to climb/hike up, a river to kayak in within a 5 minute drive, at least 4 different trail systems within a 10 minute drive (some walking distance), and roads that were empty enough that you could safely ride on them. That's outdoorsy. This is a suburb. Just because it has official parks and some paddling clubs does not make it outdoorsy. I can only assume that those of you who think NoVa is paradise for outdoor types are just not outdoor types.
11-25-2014, 06:05 PM
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(Bostonians can be tough to break the ice with, is the same true of NOVA’ians?).
Here's the thing...my husband and I are native Bostonians and found that it was much easier to make friends there than it is in the DC area.
That's not to say that it is impossible to meet new people in this area. However, it is, IMO, far more transient an area. Many times I've met people and clicked with them only to have them move away.
11-25-2014, 06:10 PM
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Here's the thing...my husband and I are native Bostonians and found that it was much easier to make friends there than it is in the DC area.
That's not to say that it is impossible to meet new people in this area. However, it is, IMO, far more transient an area. Many times I've met people and clicked with them only to have them move away.
Does the NOVA area have a higher turnover than average? It seems to me that the only people who have been here for a long time (more than 5-7 years) work for the Feds (GS salaried, not contractor).
11-25-2014, 06:29 PM
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I love the way Northern Virginians always interpret "outdoorsy" as meaning that you can, if you are determined, find a couple of biking and kayaking options locally. Clearly you have never lived in the Pacific Northwest, which is actually "outdoorsy."
Condescending, table for one?
11-25-2014, 07:37 PM
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No, it wasn't. I bike. I hike. I swim. I am "outdoorsy." I have lived in outdoorsy places. This is not one of them. I can't ride my bike anywhere near my home safely - the only place I can actually ride at any decent speed, safely, is WO&D, and I have to put my bike on a rack and drive it there, which takes 20 minutes. What difference does it make if Arlington is bike friendly if I live in Fairfax? And hiking? No serious hiking is happening without at least an hour drive. I am not talking about a little paved path full of strollers and lap dogs, so please don't bring up all the great hiking places in NoVa, which look just like that. Last place I lived, I could walk outside my house and have my choice of two different mountains to climb/hike up, a river to kayak in within a 5 minute drive, at least 4 different trail systems within a 10 minute drive (some walking distance), and roads that were empty enough that you could safely ride on them. That's outdoorsy. This is a suburb. Just because it has official parks and some paddling clubs does not make it outdoorsy. I can only assume that those of you who think NoVa is paradise for outdoor types are just not outdoor types.
Hiking options aren't 5 hours away, exaggeration much? Ever heard of great falls? Which is not just a trail either.
Also, no place on the east coast can compare to the west coast on outdoor activities. I'm talking about east coast standards, he will be getting the same amount of options or maybe even more like he did in Boston. He is not from the west coast so calm down.
11-26-2014, 01:19 AM
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Does the NOVA area have a higher turnover than average? It seems to me that the only people who have been here for a long time (more than 5-7 years) work for the Feds (GS salaried, not contractor).
You are correct when it comes to government employees. Many do stay here for years. My husband worked for the government and we looked into relocation. The problem is that by working for the gov't in DC often equates to getting fitted with a pair of golden handcuffs. So, my husband noticed that if we left the area, he wouldn't be able to climb the GS ladder as far as he would here.
The people I met through the years who didn't hang around for long were all private sector employees. Many left for lower COL areas. There actually were a few people that I knew who left this area only to return and that was due, in large part, because the job market here is better than it is in many other parts of the country.
11-26-2014, 04:39 AM
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Hiking options aren't 5 hours away, exaggeration much? Ever heard of great falls? Which is not just a trail either.
Don't forget the Appalachian Trail goes through Loudoun/Clarke County and down the Valley.
11-26-2014, 06:26 AM
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I love the way Northern Virginians always interpret "outdoorsy" as meaning that you can, if you are determined, find a couple of biking and kayaking options locally. Clearly you have never lived in the Pacific Northwest, which is actually "outdoorsy."
You are right I have never lived in the Pacific Northwest. However, I am very "outdoorsy" having grown up in a county in northern Wisconsin that to this day still doesn't even have a traffic light! Though it has a National Forest and National Lakeshore.
I consider where I live in Reston to be "outdoorsy" - there are three deer in my backyard right now! Options for paved and unpaved hiking trails and a lake for paddling.
11-26-2014, 06:32 AM
Location: Reston, VA
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I can't ride my bike anywhere near my home safely - the only place I can actually ride at any decent speed, safely, is WO&D, and I have to put my bike on a rack and drive it there, which takes 20 minutes. What difference does it make if Arlington is bike friendly if I live in Fairfax? And hiking?
I guess you picked the wrong part of NOVA to live in. I can ride my bike safely to many places from my home. I even have several different trail options from my backyard to get me to the W&OD trail. Last year I did bike to work day and went 23 miles to my office in downtown DC on bike trails - didn't even have to get on a street at all!
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People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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