Does snow stay longer than a few days in NOVA?

[blueva]

Originally Posted by popalnet

Okay everyone - I know DC is in zone 0 and Richmond is in zone 11. I know it's colder in DC during the winter than it is in Antarctica, and Richmond has similar weather to South Florida.

But according to this revised map DC and a small part of Nova is listed in zone 8 and Richmond, VA is listed in zone 7. I think this map is based on the last 15 years of recorded low temps. You can use the zoom tool in Adobe Acrobat to zoom in on area to see full details.

These people should be ashamed of themselves for putting DC in zone 8 and Richmond in zone 7. This is crazy because Richmond VA is tropical paradise with palm trees all over the place.

Here is the link to the map on the American Horticultrual Society:
http://www.ahs.org/pdfs/USDA_Map_3.03.pdf

Use the zoom tool to see details.

Here's another map I found. Richmond and DC are basically in the same zone- Zone 7



Extreme Southeast VA reaches Zone 8

[popalnet]

Originally Posted by blueva

Here's another map I found. Richmond and DC are basically in the same zone- Zone 7



Extreme Southeast VA reaches Zone 8

Correct. But the map you posted is the old map. What I posted is the new and revised map: http://www.ahs.org/pdfs/USDA_Map_3.03.pdf

But it doesn't matter because it's wrong. It's another one of those government conspiracies.

I realize Richmond has palm tree lined streets similar to LA and Miami and DC is buried in 10 feet of snow.

[blueva]

Originally Posted by popalnet

Correct. But the map you posted is the old map. What I posted is the new and revised map: http://www.ahs.org/pdfs/USDA_Map_3.03.pdf

But it doesn't matter because it's wrong. It's another one of those government conspiracies.

I realize Richmond has palm tree lined streets similar to LA and Miami and DC is buried in 10 feet of snow.

Then I politely concede. However, I will note that Im just saying that the climate between DC and Richmond is more similar than different. I will say that being further South (even if only 100 miles )- it stays a bit warmer longer in Richmond than it does DC. So the average climate in Richmond is a tad warmer. Even if DC is hotter on any given day than Richmond. Both DC and Richmond fall within the "Humid Suptropical" Region.

[notinnj]

----------------snip -----------------------------------------Furthermore, why does richmond have less snow perciptiation per year?

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I am not weighing in on the Richmond versus DC but sometimes colder areas get less snow. An example, interior South Jersey is far colder than DCA or Dulles in the winter but averages significantly less snow (12 inches annually at Millville Airport). Why? Major snow storms generally come on east winds. Proximity to the Atlantic Ocean frequently warms it up just enough so that rain falls instead. Locales farther west get snow. It is a colder climate up there but it is a bit warmer when the storms come and it makes a difference.

[stockdale.35]

Originally Posted by popalnet

I was talking about low temps and NOT average temps or high temps. That's what the USDA zone maps refer to. So yes, DC low temps are not as cold as Richmond for the most part. Yes, Richmond may have a higher maximum temp, but it gets colder for low temps in Richmond that DC.

Pull any data you can and you will see that for the most part DC low temps are not as cold as Richmond. AGAIN, I"M TALKING LOW TEMPS and not HIGH temps.

Ok, your talking about low temps, how come you didnt say anything about DC's record lows being much lower than Richmond? Why would that be, it doesnt make any sense because Richmond is less mild than DC right?

And Richmond averaging 3 degrees warmer would mean that Richmonds growing degree days would be more right? Now your going to tell me that DC has more growing days than a city 100 miles south????

This is folly arguing with something so blatantly obvious.

[stockdale.35]

Originally Posted by notinnj

----------------snip -----------------------------------------Furthermore, why does richmond have less snow perciptiation per year?

----------------------snip-------------------------------------------

I am not weighing in on the Richmond versus DC but sometimes colder areas get less snow. An example, interior South Jersey is far colder than DCA or Dulles in the winter but averages significantly less snow (12 inches annually at Millville Airport). Why? Major snow storms generally come on east winds. Proximity to the Atlantic Ocean frequently warms it up just enough so that rain falls instead. Locales farther west get snow. It is a colder climate up there but it is a bit warmer when the storms come and it makes a difference.

Yes i understand what you are trying to say, maybe I should have elaborated more on that example. A big weatherfront will hit Richmond and DC, in Richmond it stays rain and in DC it will get snow. Thats what I meant.

And to put this to rest Richmond has more growing degree days than DC. That cannont be argued! Its done DC is not milder than Richmond.

[popalnet]

Originally Posted by stockdale.35

Ok, your talking about low temps, how come you didnt say anything about DC's record lows being much lower than Richmond? Why would that be, it doesnt make any sense because Richmond is less mild than DC right?

And Richmond averaging 3 degrees warmer would mean that Richmonds growing degree days would be more right? Now your going to tell me that DC has more growing days than a city 100 miles south????

This is folly arguing with something so blatantly obvious.

You're wrong. Richmond has the same weather as Miami. Didn't I say that Richmond had palm tree lined streets all over the place? And DC has tundra lined streets. Haaahaaahaah

And the government is smoking crack because they list DC one zone warmer than Richmond. Haaahaaaha. What a world we live in.

[stockdale.35]

Originally Posted by popalnet

You're wrong. Richmond has the same weather as Miami. Didn't I say that Richmond had palm tree lined streets all over the place? And DC has tundra lined streets. Haaahaaahaah

And the government is smoking crack because they list DC one zone warmer than Richmond. Haaahaaaha. What a world we live in.

Miami, man I love that place.

[popalnet]

Originally Posted by stockdale.35

Yes i understand what you are trying to say, maybe I should have elaborated more on that example. A big weatherfront will hit Richmond and DC, in Richmond it stays rain and in DC it will get snow. Thats what I meant.

And to put this to rest Richmond has more growing degree days than DC. That cannont be argued! Its done DC is not milder than Richmond.

Oh, I must have been smoking crack earlier this year too because when I was in Richmond in early spring the trees weren't budding much, but while in DC proper the trees were blooming. Haaaahaaaahaa!! That must have been some good crack!

[stockdale.35]

Originally Posted by popalnet

Oh, I must have been smoking crack earlier this year too because when I was in Richmond in early spring the trees weren't budding much, but while in DC proper the trees were blooming. Haaaahaaaahaa!! That must have been some good crack!

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