08-06-2013, 11:17 AM
Location: Fairfax, VA
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A neighbor of ours teaches there and really likes it. I asked her if the bad reputation is deserved, and she said absolutely not. I trust her not to BS me (we're nowhere near the district line), so I'm just throwing this out there. I'm glad people who have actual experience with the school have posted.
08-06-2013, 12:13 PM
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I'm hesitant to write on a dormant thread, but since it was already revived, I feel less guilty...
Our son goes to LJMS. It was not by our choice but rather an accidental decision last year when we moved from the midwest. Overall, I would say that's a great school. Without knowing the history and reputation, we were OK about sending him there last year, but had we read some early postings on this thread back then, we might have avoided this school and this school boundary at all costs. Who would be OK about sending their kids to school full of "gang?" So, I am glad that I did not see this thread.
The racial profile, as mentioned above, 26 Asian, 7 Black, 29 Hispanic, 33 White, I would say that will be pretty much the racial profile of America in general in 2030 or so (possibly more Hispanics than 29, though), when these kids become the main force of America. So, it shouldn't be too bad to experience that early on.
I have to say the reference to "gang" is more judgmental than factual, but the school does have some interesting mix of students---again, not necessarily bad---because the school boundary is rather unusual. It stretches far east and west--from Falls Church (not the City of F.C.) with relatively higher concentration of Hispanics and blue collars, to Oakton and parts of Vienna and Fairfax with the opposite socioeconomic spectrum. It seems that most students in GT are from the western side.
The school's music program is wonderful, too, although our experience is limited to their orchestra.
One more thing to point out---LJMS has been very strong in the Science Olympiad competition in recent years. Last May, they were the 2nd in the State competition at Virginia Tech (the 1st place went to ..... Longfellow...you might love to (or hate to) hear that, depending on where you are....
).... Not that this matters with regard to the general atmosphere of the school, at least this information gives you a different flavor from a school filled with gangs, right?
I remember your posts from last year when you were having the issues with the student registration process for FCPS. Glad it worked out OK.
08-06-2013, 01:26 PM
Location: NOVA
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Apart from this thread which I didn't read until today, I have heard the reputation of "gang school" here and there and that got me upset. So I just couldn't pass by.
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I remember your posts from last year when you were having the issues with the student registration process for FCPS. Glad it worked out OK.
Thanks for remembering. I learned to be patient.
08-06-2013, 06:27 PM
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I have a child who just finished at LJMS. He could have gone to Thoreau, but we went with Jackson. He loved it there. Now I have another middle schooler heading there. Since I already had a child at LJ, many parents asked my thoughts on the choice between LJ and Thoreau. I feel very positive about LJ, but I did not want to unfairly influence. So I arranged to informal coffee times for parents who were considering sending their child to LJ (deciding beween LJ and Thoreau) and parents who already had kids at LJ. I have been very happy with LJ...caring administration, helpful staff, great AAP program, but WOW, when we put 10-12 LJ AAP parents in a room, they are convincing. After listening to current LJ parents and meeting the LJ AAP teachers, just about ALL the kids from the AAP program at my child's elementary school are going on to LJ.
08-06-2013, 08:56 PM
Location: Chapel Hill, NC, formerly NoVA and Phila
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In the earlier posters' defense, this thread was started in 2009. LJ has changed a bit in the past 4 years with AAP being built up and more Vienna students going there. Not saying it was necessarily bad back then, because I don't really know, but there are more higher income and higher-achieving students there than there used to be, and I think its reputation is only improving. Plus that area is getting a facelift, which is probably also contributing to people being less hesitant about going there.
Mosby Woods Elementary also used to have a poor reputation and I used to regularly hear about "gangs" and people avoiding the school - this was about 6-7 years ago. Then AAP showed up and the school's reputation has turned around. And Marshall High School had a reputation about 13 years ago when I first moved to Vienna. There had been some "gang" incident there, I believe. Now its reputation has improved as well.
All this to say that schools' repuations change all the time, programs are added in and out, principals change, neighborhoods change, etc. So it's best to visit in person, talk to current parents, staff, etc. before deciding on whether a school is right for you.
08-12-2013, 07:34 AM
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Does anyone know whether the improvement in LJ's reputation has spilled over to Falls Church HS? I feel like FCHS has always had a bad reputation (worse than LJ's).
08-12-2013, 07:51 AM
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Does anyone know whether the improvement in LJ's reputation has spilled over to Falls Church HS? I feel like FCHS has always had a bad reputation (worse than LJ's).
If the "improvement in LJ's reputation" is due in part to the AAP program, then it's unlikely all of that would inure to Falls Church HS's benefit, since many of the AAP kids at LJ are zoned for Oakton and Madison HS, not Falls Church HS. But the strong program at LJ certainly is not a negative for FCHS.
The redevelopment of the Mosaic District area and the increasing popularity of some of the close-in neighborhoods assigned to FCHS like Greenway Downs are positives for the school. Another plus is the recent opening of a brand-new elementary school, Mason Crest, in the area, which people seem to be really excited about. But FCHS itself is in poor physical condition, while some of its neighboring schools (Woodson and Marshall) were recently renovated, or are being renovated now. That has tended to foster a perception that FCPS has neglected the school. In FCHS's case, it would be a big plus if FCPS could find a way to renovate the school earlier than currently scheduled.
08-12-2013, 08:37 AM
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Thanks. I figured the new developments would help the area, considering the townhouses go for more than $800k, but didn't know about the new elementary school.
I know that perceptions take some time to change, but when I was growing up, Marshall also had a pretty bad reputation and now it's considered one of the best schools in the area. I'm hopeful that the same can happen with FCHS, but it's had a negative reputation for as long as I can remember. But then again, so did Luther Jackson, and it seems like that's changing now.
05-19-2018, 01:20 PM
It makes me laugh that all these posts are from 2009. I'm currently enrolled in LJMS and I will tell you that things have definitely changed if what the 2009 people say is in fact true. For one, there are no more gangs and the majority of the kids at the school are nice to each other. One of the main reasons I went to LJ instead of Thoreau is because of their diverse environment and teachers. The AAP program that I'm currently in really pushes me to my limits and includes enjoyable activities to do. The school itself has a strong grip on the students to make sure they don't miss out on class or do anything that may negatively affect their future. Some of my favorite classes are math, science, english, engineering, family and consumer sciences, computer solutions, and, even though I haven't taken it but all my friends tell me it's fun, theater.
05-19-2018, 05:58 PM
Location: Town of Herndon/DC Metro
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It makes me laugh that all these posts are from 2009. I'm currently enrolled in LJMS and I will tell you that things have definitely changed if what the 2009 people say is in fact true. For one, there are no more gangs and the majority of the kids at the school are nice to each other. One of the main reasons I went to LJ instead of Thoreau is because of their diverse environment and teachers. The AAP program that I'm currently in really pushes me to my limits and includes enjoyable activities to do. The school itself has a strong grip on the students to make sure they don't miss out on class or do anything that may negatively affect their future. Some of my favorite classes are math, science, english, engineering, family and consumer sciences, computer solutions, and, even though I haven't taken it but all my friends tell me it's fun, theater.
Max, you could sub the words "Falls Church High" for LJ and that would be perfectly accurate too.
I really dislike the whole Middle School set up in FCPS. It sucks to have 10 schools feed into middle, you make friends and have terrific experiences, like Theatre, together, then the school and your relationships break up into different high schools.
My friends love FCHS because, as a small school, you can get into any extracurruricula you like, even Football! Plus there was a rash of suicides
and other issues at Woodson and my friends were relieved to not deal with that. Some families kept their parochial kids at the Diocesan High Schools because they were zoned Woodson when problems were at their worst.
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People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)