Radon in Homes? (houses, gated, home inspector)

[Margery]

Originally Posted by FlyersFan

You continually use the wrong term of "mediation" in this post. The proper term is "mitigation".........to mitigate means to control.....which is exactly what a radon mitigation system does.....it controls the flow of radon......it doesn't eliminate it.....it just controls the flow of the radon gas from under the slab by venting it to the exterior.
Before you start giving advice on mitigation systems and their costs and techniques it would be wise to do a little homework and know what your talking about otherwise all you accomplish is to spread misinformation as you did in the above post.

And while we are in a correcting mode, you might learn the difference between your and you're.

[FlyersFan]

Originally Posted by Margery

And while we are in a correcting mode, you might learn the difference between your and you're.

"Correcting" crucial improper terminology or misinformation in the effort to educate and be helpful is one thing while correcting soley to be a smart ass or belittle helps no one ?

[South Jersey Styx]

Originally Posted by FlyersFan

You continually use the wrong term of "mediation" in this post. The proper term is "mitigation".........to mitigate means to control.....which is exactly what a radon mitigation system does.....it controls the flow of radon......it doesn't eliminate it.....it just controls the flow of the radon gas from under the slab by venting it to the exterior.

No, I did not misuse any term. However, I did use "mediation" instead of "remediation."

Mitigation is the process of "pumping out/eliminating the gas" and remediation is the resolution of the entire problem. The same term [remediation] is used with asbestos.

Originally Posted by FlyersFan

Before you start giving advice on mitigation systems and their costs and techniques it would be wise to do a little homework and know what your talking about otherwise all you accomplish is to spread misinformation as you did in the above post.

Did I mention specific costs and techniques? Have you shared with the group how much it cost you? And what system was used to test in the first place? And what system is currently being used to mitigate? Regardless of what system is in place, nothing will eliminate radon 100% and anyone who tells you that is pulling your leg. The radon IS IN THE GROUND. And it's constantly rising up.

Did I not already suggest to go to the "House Forum". .. where you will indeed find radon specialists and lots of folks who have been through the process? Maybe you missed it:

Originally Posted by South Jersey Styx

However, the issue of radon in houses is heated argument, especially with mediation systems who claim to solve the problem. If you Search "Radon" on the "House" Forum, you'll see the debates going on; probably more than 1/2 of the C-Ders who commented will tell you that alot of the stuff is bullsh*t, especially the testing methods.

If you're really interested in information and research on this topic from homeowners, that's the place to find it. And if you want to start a quarrel, go to that Forum and post your question. But be sure to have your ducks in a row because there's alot of knowledgeable people on that Forum and they have no problem tell you like it is.

Am I an expert in radon? Heck no. I am a homeowner just like everyone else in this NoVA Forum. However, I spent the last year looking for a historic home to buy-- from the 1700s to early 20th-century and with every one of the houses I had under contract I had to learn about and deal with issues on radon, asbestos, and lead and dealt with inspectors, specialists, real estate agents, and other homeowners with similar issues.

BTW, the house I did buy cleared inspection with well-wrapped asbestos pipes, there's probably lead paint buried underneath all those layers of paint but I have my Disclosure from the Seller, and the way I get rid of the possible radon is by opening by basement windows.

[Margery]

Originally Posted by FlyersFan

"Correcting" crucial improper terminology or misinformation in the effort to educate and be helpful is one thing while correcting soley to be a smart ass or belittle helps no one ?

While I admit to being a "smart ass" at times, I usually do not comment on improper or unclear usage in online comments because I understand there is often a difference between what you're thinking and what comes out as you type. However, I understood that South Jersey Styx meant remediation in her comments and certainly did not present herself as an expert. I thought your comment about her spreading misinformation was a bit pompous and decided to give you a little dig.

[FlyersFan]

Originally Posted by South Jersey Styx

No, I did not misuse any term. However, I did use "mediation" instead of "remediation."
I'm sorry to inform you but that is a misuse of a term

Mitigation is the process of "pumping out/eliminating the gas" and remediation is the resolution of the entire problem. The same term [remediation] is used with asbestos.
I am well aware of the term "mitigation"......I am a New Jersey DEP licensed radon specialist with 20+ years experience with radon......I personally "mitigate" well over 100 homes each year.

Did I mention specific costs and techniques? Have you shared with the group how much it cost you? And what system was used to test in the first place? And what system is currently being used to mitigate? Regardless of what system is in place, nothing will eliminate radon 100% and anyone who tells you that is pulling your leg. The radon IS IN THE GROUND. And it's constantly rising up.
This paragraph only demonstrates you lack of knowledge regaring radon and the mitigation process.

Did I not already suggest to go to the "House Forum". .. where you will indeed find radon specialists and lots of folks who have been through the process? Maybe you missed it:
Again......I AM A RADON SPECIALIST !!!


If you're really interested in information and research on this topic from homeowners, that's the place to find it. And if you want to start a quarrel, go to that Forum and post your question. But be sure to have your ducks in a row because there's alot of knowledgeable people on that Forum and they have no problem tell you like it is.

Am I an expert in radon? Heck no. Thats quite obvious I am a homeowner just like everyone else in this NoVA Forum. However, I spent the last year looking for a historic home to buy-- from the 1700s to early 20th-century and with every one of the houses I had under contract I had to learn about and deal with issues on radon, asbestos, and lead and dealt with inspectors, specialists, real estate agents, and other homeowners with similar issues.

BTW, the house I did buy cleared inspection with well-wrapped asbestos pipes, there's probably lead paint buried underneath all those layers of paint but I have my Disclosure from the Seller, and the way I get rid of the possible radon is by opening by basement windows.

Very clever.....I'm sure you'll love your heating bills in the winter and the condensation on your plumbing pipes in the summer.

[FlyersFan]

Originally Posted by Margery

While I admit to being a "smart ass" at times, I usually do not comment on improper or unclear usage in online comments because I understand there is often a difference between what you're thinking and what comes out as you type. However, I understood that South Jersey Styx meant remediation in her comments and certainly did not present herself as an expert. I thought your comment about her spreading misinformation was a bit pompous and decided to give you a little dig.

Well.....that kinda, sorta sounds a little like an apology so how can I possibly hold a grudge with a woman thats willing to admit shes a bit of a smart ass.....I enjoy that in a womans personality. My complaint with those on here like "South Jersey Styx" that post inaccurate information on radon is that others take what they say as factual which only serves to make it more difficult for those professionals that deal with the public misconception of radon and the validity of its concern. How much credibility or leeway can you possibly give anyone who posts that they personally believe the "cure" for radon is to open your basement windows ? I am a New Jersey DEP radon specialist with 20 years experience in mitigation.....I personally mitigate well over 100 homes a year. I've mitigated homes occupied by adults who have never smoked and young children that were suffering specifically from lung cancer......its upsetting and annoying to read the nonsense posted by uninformed individuals regarding radon. Their misinformation serves no purpose in a thread asking about the concerns of radon and they should think twice before offering a personal opinion rather than an accurate factual response. Their misinformation is hurting people.

[South Jersey Styx]

Originally Posted by FlyersFan

Very clever.....I'm sure you'll love your heating bills in the winter and the condensation on your plumbing pipes in the summer.

Wow, such a clever comeback. . . Heating bills are fine. Basement can't be too airtight anyway because there's a natural gas boiler in there and there is not condensation on pipes because they're wrapped (as previously mentioned).

[Deb Gorham]

Radon can easily be detected with the best company in NOVA. Radon is found in some neighborhoods over others for some unknown reason. I always recommend to my real estate clients that they have a relatively inexpensive ($175.00) test performed and that contingency be in place in their sales offer.

[South Jersey Styx]

Originally Posted by FlyersFan

Well.....that kinda, sorta sounds a little like an apology so how can I possibly hold a grudge with a woman thats willing to admit shes a bit of a smart ass.....I enjoy that in a womans personality.

Does anybody honestly care what you enjoy in a woman? This isn't even on topic.

My complaint with those on here like "South Jersey Styx" that post inaccurate information on radon is that others take what they say as factual . . . .

My complaint with those on here like "FlyersFan" is that they accuse others of misinforming others when they themselves do not provide information that would prove otherwise. If the OP has posted on a question on radon and is looking for options, seems like the only option YOU have provided is to hire you and pay the costs needed. You have never once mentioned your methods of testing or about how the problem would be solved for each given situation.

Besides, what's all this misinformation that I have supposedly given here? Hmm? That radon is in the ground, and prevalent in mountainous areas? That radon seeps upward and continuously does so? That even with mitigation a house will not be 100% free of radon? That some of the tests that professionals insist on have been questioned numerously by homeowner?

I am a New Jersey DEP radon specialist with 20 years experience in mitigation.....I personally mitigate well over 100 homes a year.

Geez, now this all makes sense. Best to hire you and pony up the $$ for the solution, right? If you work in NJ then why are you answering a question about a home in VA? And where are all these 100 homes per year that you mitigate? Would any of them happen to be in south Jersey? You seem pretty angry and defensive for someone who appears to be a professional in this field, choosing rather to call people liars instead of education folks on this topic.

I mentioned before that there's lots of debate on this topic over on the "House" Forum. I see that this hasn't been mentioned at all. So I did a little homework and found this query especially interesting and colorful. I like Post #24 by escanlan who opens his/her response to FlyersFan with "Wow, what a violent poster we have here. . . .":
https://www.city-data.com/forum/house/707240-how-much-radon-too-much-radon.html

[CubberMom]

If I remember the Terms of Use for this forum, we're not supposed to post negative comments about other members. So I guess I must refrain from saying things like, "Certain experts might also need mitigation of an anger management problem." Or, "Some people get really bent out of shape at total strangers located in other states, and don't know how to address concerns in a respectful manner, nor educate others with helpful information in a warm-hearted tone."