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Old 09-02-2016, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Kahala
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Good grief. My point is that if you spend good money at the IMP, you shouldn't be charged nearly $30 for parking. This may be OK in SF where you came from... but it is NOT ok for locals.
At least the people in SF or who came from SF are smart enough to check the parking rates BEFORE entering a parking garage and not be surprised when it's time to pay. The "locals" - I guess not so much (even though it matches exactly Royal Hawaiian Shopping Center).

Although you do have an excuse for everything- now people aren't driving (hint - traffic was as bad Thursday rush hour as any other workday).

 
Old 09-02-2016, 01:03 PM
 
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Although you do have an excuse for everything- now people aren't driving (hint - traffic was as bad Thursday rush hour as any other workday).
Hint - People don't park at the zoo at 5:45 p.m. to go to work.

Anyone that hasn't been living under a bridge alone knows there is a very real threat of road closures at any time (due to dignitaries moving from one location in town to another); this has prevented many people from doing anything social or recreational after work. They just finish work and hunker down at home. This is why the zoo parking lot (among ANY parking lot in town) is so empty - nobody wants to get stuck in traffic, they want to be home. Less people wanting to get stuck in gridlock means less people will drive their cars if it's not for essential commuting. Less cars on the road going to places in town means reduced demand for parking lots in town.

You see how that all works?

If you're still having a hard time comprehending this, I'm more than happy to try and explain this to you again.

 
Old 09-02-2016, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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Hint - People don't park at the zoo at 5:45 p.m. to go to work.
Hint, 5:45pm is prime happy hour time, especially with a lot of people taking Friday off.

My point is - you don't get out enough - you can't even accept photographic proof.

Maybe they are all parking at the IMP and staying for 7 hours
 
Old 09-02-2016, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Montana
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Funny, almost two years to the week we were at the zoo and found parking looking similar to the photo. Not many cars were there. and NO bama was not there either.
 
Old 09-02-2016, 11:07 PM
 
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Funny, almost two years to the week we were at the zoo and found parking looking similar to the photo. Not many cars were there. and NO bama was not there either.
It's funny how this has become an argument over a parking lot being full or not. Rather then the original point of profit over people which I believe was PJs original point of posting?

Sometimes people need to look deeper then surface levels to find truth. A good example of this is "just because a business is from the mainland doesn't mean it can't be local." We have seen examples of this in Hawaii. Sears first comes to mind. A mainland owned corporation but has been a part of Hawaii since before she was a state. The difference being Sears has paid it's dues and does make business choices that benefit local people and Hawaii. Not just her pocket book.
 
Old 09-02-2016, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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Sears first comes to mind. A mainland owned corporation but has been a part of Hawaii since before she was a state. The difference being Sears has paid it's dues and does make business choices that benefit local people.
Like closing the store at Ala Moana?

Regardless - the land is owned locally.
 
Old 09-02-2016, 11:28 PM
 
Location: SF Bay & Diamond Head
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Well - no. It's ridiculous to park at IMP more than 3 hours. That'll cost you a whopping $4 with validation ( same as Royal Hawaiian Center).
Could have moved their car half way thru and paid $8 ! But the Zoo to IMP is too far? My building is down on the Gold Coast and plenty of old rich tourists and locals walk into Waikiki. About 15 minutes to Kapahulu (along the ocean) and another 10 to IMP. Damn lazy kids.
 
Old 09-03-2016, 12:29 AM
 
Location: Honolulu
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If you haven't got it yet? It has nothing to do with adopting or living our custom way of life. The whole central theme is what Hawaii can be with change. Really if you look at the New International Marketplace and really look at it one can see that the change happening has nothing to do with going forward in life with new different things but replacing the past(ours)with a different past(theirs). I agree the NIMP its very pretty now. Sad its old spirit is gone as well.

Places like Abercrombie, Anthropologie, Banana Republic and Saks Fifth Avenue have been on the mainland for at least a decade now nothing new. Its a shame that the japanese tourist wants highend. I miss the Hawaiicana that the mainland tourist in the past wanted, corny as it was. Im greatful they saved the banyan and have a few local stores. Its not all bad. But i just can't help but feel that the developers saved the banyan and added local stores to avoid uproar.
So are you advocating the IMP should have been kept in it's original state? With all those tacky souvenirs and little snack places? It just looked so dirty and worn down the last time I went there. Change is pretty much inevitable. Also there are still a lot of historical sites for tourists to see around the island. I just didn't get the appeal of the old IMP.
 
Old 09-03-2016, 12:51 AM
 
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Like closing the store at Ala Moana?

Regardless - the land is owned locally.
Oh hey your not for real are you? Read between the lines.

"Sears Holdings Corp. last year struck a deal with Ala Moana Center owner General Growth Properties Inc. to sell the store

General Growth exercised its right to move up Sears’ closing date, which was originally scheduled for early 2014"

Why? Because General Growth Inc already had plans for Bloomingdales to move into the Sears location when the ewa wing got built. Granted Sears profits were really down but still Sears doesn't fit into the high-end retail mail image. Bloomingdales is not Sears.

Might I suggest that your on the wrong forum? Maybe try a forum that people share hated of Hawaii it might work better for you? You just appear to long for everything mainland.
 
Old 09-03-2016, 01:24 AM
 
Location: Kahala
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You forgot s link or source as usual.

International Marketplace is locally owned by the way.
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