July 1, 2013 City Population Estimates (Columbus, Cleveland: design, estimate, suburb)

[db108108]

Cool to see Columbus accelerating. At this rate, it should see 900,000 by the next census.

[ZnGuy]

Originally Posted by db108108

Cool to see Columbus accelerating. At this rate, it should see 900,000 by the next census.

Yep..but don't look back in the rear view mirror as it looks like Charlotte will surpass COL by 2020..

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by ZnGuy

Yep..but don't look back in the rear view mirror as it looks like Charlotte will surpass COL by 2020..

As will Ft. Worth. But Columbus is also rapidly closing the gap on the next 3 cities ahead of it, so it may not matter anyway.

[TheCincinnatiSir]

This is nice. I like to see cities do well. The talk of who will surpass who when is rather silly and pointless.

[AndyMac1407]

Just out of curiosity, how does Toledo count their population? Do the townships like, Sylvania, count towards the number or is Toledo that vast?

[Tarheel8406]

As far as I know, the Census just counts/estimates what's within the city limits which you can find by Googling the city. Sylvania would not count since it's outside Toledo's city limits.

[RustBeltOptimist]

Originally Posted by AndyMac1407

Just out of curiosity, how does Toledo count their population? Do the townships like, Sylvania, count towards the number or is Toledo that vast?

These numbers are just the cities themselves, whereas MSA numbers provide an accurate count of how many are in the entire metro area and will include suburbs like Sylvania. So while Columbus (1,944,002,) Cincinnati (2,128,603) and Cleveland (2,063,535) all have similar metro area sizes for the time being, Columbus' city population count is much larger since it's annexed so much of its surrounding Franklin County.

Toledo's MSA: 608,711, it lost 609 people between 2012 and 2013, but it seems the metro area's decoupled itself from Detroit's collapse and I'm guessing will be slightly positive for the 2013-2014 estimate.

[AndyMac1407]

Originally Posted by RustBeltOptimist

These numbers are just the cities themselves, whereas MSA numbers provide an accurate count of how many are in the entire metro area and will include suburbs like Sylvania. So while Columbus (1,944,002,) Cincinnati (2,128,603) and Cleveland (2,063,535) all have similar metro area sizes for the time being, Columbus' city population count is much larger since it's annexed so much of its surrounding Franklin County.

Toledo's MSA: 608,711, it lost 609 people between 2012 and 2013, but it seems the metro area's decoupled itself from Detroit's collapse and I'm guessing will be slightly positive for the 2013-2014 estimate.

Gotcha. Surprising Toledo is so large. For some reason I always thought they counted the bordering townships as part of their population.

[JoeP]

Cleveland's numbers are arbitrarily and artificially low.
All metro areas for cities this size usually include all core bordering counties. Summit county should be part of Cleveland's metro. It has a large population closer than distant fringe suburbs included in other metros.

[Tarheel8406]

Those are the numbers for the city of Cleveland, not the metro area. The Census also released 2013 estimates for Cleveland's MSA (2,064,725) and CSA (3,501,538). Summit County is part of Akron's MSA, but is part of Cleveland's CSA.