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Old 08-08-2014, 01:35 PM
 
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Maybe not electricity for cars, we're still talking fossil fuels....
Electricity is by far the best transportation fuel there is as long as we are talking about short distances that can be spanned on a single charge.


Cars could be charged using solar cells during the off-peak morning hours, but there is too much focus on getting 100+ miles out of a charge when 40-50 miles usually is good enough for most people's daily drive.

For short distances, electricity moves an automobile with far less wasted energy than an internal combustion engine.

For long distances, the most compact form of energy storage is a tank of gasoline or diesel fuel.

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FCVs run on hydrogen gas rather than gasoline and emit no harmful tailpipe emissions.
Unfortunately, the only way to produce hydrogen on a large scale is by using natural gas. Bummer. We're back to fracking.


Oh, and don't bother coming back with producing H2 from electrolysis. That's not gonna fly.

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It's a shame the oil & gas industry has bought both dems & reps, because they will NEVER allow FCVs to get off the ground.
Oh, it's a conspiracy! The evil people are working in the background to poison us because "they" all like poisoned water and land.

No. The SHAME is the failure to recognize that fracking is here to stay and not to take advantage of it as a revenue stream to finance further solar and wind energy production to reduce dependence on fossil fuels.

Instead, time and effort is wasted trying to stop something that's not going to be stopped while there are rooftops getting baked in the sun.

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Old 08-09-2014, 05:40 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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"Every time a discussion of alternative energy and alternative fuels comes up, someone somewhere shouts, "hydrogen economy!"

And every time someone shouts "hydrogen economy," a baby seal gets clubbed to death by an angry engineer."


Ouch, that hurt. ;-)

People are working on producing hydrogen gas from viable sources that don't include fossil fuels. Someday, maybe...

Hydrogen powered cars may be fueled by stored ammonia | Ars Technica
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Old 08-09-2014, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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Another possibility for replacing fossil fuels~

Seaweed biofuels: a green alternative that might just save the planet | Environment | The Guardian
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Old 08-11-2014, 05:02 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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GOOD news re: the subject of this thread! (How our oil money-controlled govt is allowing the Ohio River to be put at risk and many more millions of gallons of radon-tinged frack waste to be dumped in landfills in Ohio by building a barge dock in S OH, so the private company Greenhunter can profit from our poisoning.)

They've extended the period for public comments to the Army Corp of Engineers until Aug 24.

You can find the email address here~

Athens County Fracking Action Network

There have only been 340 comments to them so far. You'd think more people would be concerned.
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Old 08-27-2014, 04:28 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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The total comments opposing the toxic waste facility on the Ohio River came in at 3400, acc to this~

"If the proposal is approved by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and the U.S. Coast Guard allows the barging of fracking waste on U.S. rivers, GreenHunter, a Texas-based fracking waste company, could build a barge dock on the Ohio River to unload about 105 million gallons of toxic liquid fracking waste each year. These toxic fluids would be transported from states as far away as Texas and Louisiana, held temporarily on the Ohio River and then permanently deposited in Ohio’s injection wells which already accepts almost 700 million gallons of fracking waste per year.

During the public comment period, which ended Sunday, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers received 3,400 comments against the proposal."
3,400 oppose Ohio River barge terminal for fracking wastes - Drilling - Ohio



Why Ohio for all this carcinogenic, radioactive waste?


Do all the other governor's but Kasich reject it? The guy wasn't born in Ohio, he was a Lehman Bros banker and a Fox Fiction TV guy before recruited by Koch's tea party to run/ruin Ohio. It really shouldn't be a surprise.


But it's sad.
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Old 08-27-2014, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Shaker Heights, OH
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The total comments opposing the toxic waste facility on the Ohio River came in at 3400, acc to this~

"If the proposal is approved by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and the U.S. Coast Guard allows the barging of fracking waste on U.S. rivers, GreenHunter, a Texas-based fracking waste company, could build a barge dock on the Ohio River to unload about 105 million gallons of toxic liquid fracking waste each year. These toxic fluids would be transported from states as far away as Texas and Louisiana, held temporarily on the Ohio River and then permanently deposited in Ohio’s injection wells which already accepts almost 700 million gallons of fracking waste per year.

During the public comment period, which ended Sunday, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers received 3,400 comments against the proposal."
3,400 oppose Ohio River barge terminal for fracking wastes - Drilling - Ohio



Why Ohio for all this carcinogenic, radioactive waste?


Do all the other governor's but Kasich reject it? The guy wasn't born in Ohio, he was a Lehman Bros banker and a Fox Fiction TV guy before recruited by Koch's tea party to run/ruin Ohio. It really shouldn't be a surprise.


But it's sad.
Kasich is an Ohioan...he was a US Congressman from the Columbus area...he was elected in 1994 during the GOP's & Newt Gingrich's Contract With America.
He went along w/ Newt and President Clinton to balance the budget (and has tried to take credit for leading it when President Clinton really got it done dragging republicans and some democrats w/ him).
He left politics after 2000 I believe when he went to Lehman Brothers and became a Wall Street exec and Faux News hack...
Yes the Koch brothers and his high falutin friends in Columbus bankrolled his campaing in 2010 for governor.

It's ashame that Dems didn't choose one of their 2 popular Mayors (Michael Coleman or Frank Jackson) to run against him this year...instead we get the loser Fitzgerald who can't come close to the fundraising that Kasich gets and has had several issues crop up like driving for years without a license (I mean who doesn't know you have to renew your license to driver )
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Old 08-28-2014, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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Fitzergerald is just cringe-worthy. That aside, even if he were the sharpest guy ever, he hasn't said a WORD against fracking, other than against Kasich & the ODNR having secret plans to positively spin fracking in our state parks.

Nothing about making it safer. Nothing about Ohio being the regional dumping ground for toxic waste.

Both sides are bought by Big Oil on this. We don't have anyone on our side, even the president.
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Old 09-12-2014, 10:43 AM
 
Location: California
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Watch how close you live to them:

People Who Live Near Fracking More Likely to Become Sick, Largest Study of Its Kind Finds | Weather Underground
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Old 09-13-2014, 04:58 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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How Hillary Clinton's State Department Sold Fracking to the World

A trove of secret documents details the US government's global push for shale gas.

How Hillary Clinton's State Department Sold Fracking to the World | Mother Jones

I knew I didn't like her.

I also don't like our country's "elected" government being run by moneyed corporations. This isn't a true democracy anymore.
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Old 09-16-2014, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Shaker Heights, OH
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How Hillary Clinton's State Department Sold Fracking to the World

A trove of secret documents details the US government's global push for shale gas.

How Hillary Clinton's State Department Sold Fracking to the World | Mother Jones

I knew I didn't like her.

I also don't like our country's "elected" government being run by moneyed corporations. This isn't a true democracy anymore.
She would be my least favorite Dem for President...plenty of better options.
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