Cincinnati vs Cleveland vs Columbus (Lakewood, Mentor: hotel, homes, subdivision)

[bjimmy24]

Cleveland beaches are fine for Ohioans, not brazilians, who have some of the nicest in the world. There is no comparison.

[PerryMason614]

Originally Posted by WRnative

Obviously take what Perry Mason and many of the other Columbus boosters write with some considerable caution. It's often ridiculousness IMO.

Drove through there. Saw the people who were there. Not interested in stopping. Cleveland Beaches and Lake Erie beaches in general are as enticing as the ones at state parks. Edgewater Park sucks. (Don't know what's on the Canada side, but it can't be much different.)

The best Great Lakes beaches are in Michigan and it isn't even close. With the exception of Presque Isle. Lake Erie is good for boating and that's it.

Here is Edgewater Park and its 50 feet of "beach": http://www.crainscleveland.com/apps/...1400&MaxH=1400

And speaking of Edgewater Beach, all I saw there was a bunch of Traybons and Traybonettes when I went there. Not impressed. Yes, I am a snob and proud of it.

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

Cleveland beaches are fine for Ohioans, not brazilians, who have some of the nicest in the world. There is no comparison.

They are not even fine for any Ohioan who has been to the East Coast or the Gulf Coast ... or Michigan ... or the Salt Fork State Park!!! The Lake Erie view is great if you live on the lake and Lake Erie is great if you own a boat. The beaches suck and there is no getting around that.

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

Cleveland beaches are fine for Ohioans, not brazilians, who have some of the nicest in the world. There is no comparison.

Brazil has some massively polluted beaches. Check out the stories regarding the upcoming Olympics.

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by PerryMason614

Drove through there. Saw the people who were there. Not interested in stopping. Cleveland Beaches and Lake Erie beaches in general are as enticing as the ones at state parks. Edgewater Park sucks. (Don't know what's on the Canada side, but it can't be much different.)

The best Great Lakes beaches are in Michigan and it isn't even close. With the exception of Presque Isle. Lake Erie is good for boating and that's it.

Here is Edgewater Park and its 50 feet of "beach": http://www.crainscleveland.com/apps/...1400&MaxH=1400

And speaking of Edgewater Beach, all I saw there was a bunch of Traybons and Traybonettes when I went there. Not impressed. Yes, I am a snob and proud of it.



They are not even fine for any Ohioan who has been to the East Coast or the Gulf Coast ... or Michigan ... or the Salt Fork State Park!!! The Lake Erie view is great if you live on the lake and Lake Erie is great if you own a boat. The beaches suck and there is no getting around that.

Again, ridiculousness. Anybody should read the reviews that I posted of Edgewater and consider those opinions juxtaposed against a biased rant here by an admitted "snob."

Comparing Salt Fork with the likes of Headlands Beach, especially considering the surf, and even actual surfers, is an absurdity IMO.

http://parks.ohiodnr.gov/headlandsbeach

If someone wants to drive many hours and spend a good amount of money, Delaware and Michigan beaches are great. As a kid, I went several times weekly to Headlands and/or Fairport Harbor and enjoyed them greatly. Clevelanders are lucky to have good beaches nearby.

[PerryMason614]

Originally Posted by WRnative

Again, ridiculousness. Anybody should read the reviews that I posted of Edgewater and consider those opinions juxtaposed against a biased rant here by an admitted "snob."

Comparing Salt Fork with the likes of Headlands Beach, especially considering the surf, and even actual surfers, is an absurdity IMO.

http://parks.ohiodnr.gov/headlandsbeach

If someone wants to drive many hours and spend a good amount of money, Delaware and Michigan beaches are great. As a kid, I went several times weekly to Headlands and/or Fairport Harbor and enjoyed them greatly. Clevelanders are lucky to have good beaches nearby.

O M G!

Headlands is about the size of a Walmart parking lot. That's not a beach, it's basically a glorified local swimming pool!

https://goo.gl/maps/fbSxk19Rxdr

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by PerryMason614

O M G!

Headlands is about the size of a Walmart parking lot. That's not a beach, it's basically a glorified swimming pool!

https://goo.gl/maps/fbSxk19Rxdr

You've obviously never been to Headlands.

Its beach is well over twice the length of your highly acclaimed Salt Fork State Park beach (obviously a kiddie wading pool in your eyes). Even its parking lots (yes, plural), dwarf the size of any Wal-Mart's parking lot. What other beach in Ohio is a mile long and as deep as the Headlands beach?

Headlands Beach State Park in Mentor is a mile long | cleveland.com

In addition to its beach area, adjacent to the swimming beach is the beautiful Headland Dunes Nature Preserve.

Headlands Dunes

[maxmodder]

I learned how to drive and parallel park in the parking lot of headlands beach LOL. It has its purposes.....

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by PerryMason614

Here is Edgewater Park and its 50 feet of "beach": http://www.crainscleveland.com/apps/...1400&MaxH=1400

50 feet of beach??? Do you think you can just make inaccurate statements and nobody will check them out? Nobody who had ever visited Edgewater would ever make the statement that it had only 50 feet of beach.

Edgewater is large lakefront park with a 900-foot swimming beach and 6,000 feet of shoreline. It's about a 5-minute drive from downtown.

Lakefront Reservation | Reservations | Cleveland Metroparks

[Kamms]

Originally Posted by WRnative

50 feet of beach??? Do you think you can just make inaccurate statements and nobody will check them out? Nobody who had ever visited Edgewater would ever make the statement that it had only 50 feet of beach.

Edgewater is large lakefront park with a 900-foot swimming beach and 6,000 feet of shoreline. It's about a 5-minute drive from downtown.

Lakefront Reservation | Reservations | Cleveland Metroparks

PerryMason614 is not the fact-checking attorney Perry Mason familiar to us. The goal is to put Cleveland's beaches down. Edgewater, Huntington, Headlands. Doesn't matter. Sounds like the fact that there are ''beaches'' in or around Cleveland bothers this person whether they are small or large beaches, clean or dirty. Not gonna win here.

[nep321]

Now having finally visited Cincinnati today for the first time ever, I will say that I believe it is at least as good as Cleveland. But at the end of the day, I have to say, that Columbus is probably the best of the three overall, to live in. Obviously, that's my opinion, but let me explain how I see the situation.

To me, all three cities (metro areas) are aesthetically appealing, in different ways, but I will admit that Columbus is a bit on the bland side overall. Cleveland has amazing architecture and the landscape is alright. Cincinnati, to me, felt like THE biggest city in Ohio, period. I couldn't believe how "big city" it felt in the downtown area, with numerous blocks of skyscrapers and even some people walking around, though it could be more lively. The whole riverfront with all the bridges and the low rise mountains and valleys in the horizon just looks beautiful. Even with some houses and buildings on the slopes of the hills.

Culturally, I fit in the best in Cleveland, because it's very similar to east coast culture (I'm from CT). But I still fit in decently in Columbus. Cincinnati, on the other hand, crossed the line when it comes to culture and fitting in. To me, I felt like I was on the edge of the South. The accents and general appearance of the people is just different than the other two cities, and certainly different than the east coast.

Unfortunately for Cleveland, the metro area is still losing population, though at a slowing rate. On the bright side though, home values are gradually appreciating. But after visiting/living in and comparing all three of these cities, there's one thing about Cleveland that sort of bothers me. I want to love Cleveland, but I really don't know if I could get myself to live there. It's just kind of depressing. Of the three C's, it's just cold, dark, gritty and depressing in most areas in the city and even some suburb areas. The roads are easily the worst of the three. And the whole lake effect snow thing could be a big deal. But among the three C's, it seems to be the most renaissance charactered city.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, it's nice to come back home to Columbus, whether coming from Cleveland or Cincinnati. Columbus, in my opinion, is the most well rounded of the three.

DAYTON: I also had the opportunity to visit Dayton today. My initial impression is that the city has a very dead, depressed, beige appearance to it. There were barely any people walking around. Everything looked closed, dead or empty. However, I liked the peacefulness of the area. It wasn't busy or congested at all, which I really liked.

AND SPRINGFIELD: This has got to be one of the most hideous cities I've ever seen. Everything looks run down, it's dead and just ugly overall. There are almost no signs of economic or social renaissance going on in Springfield. I would not recommend it to anyone.

That's just my opinion though.