Ohio: The Northeast or Midwest? (to live in, fence, centers)

[bgallaher1]

Then why on earth is it in the EASTERN time zone? just because you've heard other people call it the midwest does not make it the correct term. Does anyone who calls it midwestern own a map? Mississippi is south eastern but Ohio is mid western, yeah ok.

[TheYO]

Culturally, Ohio is definitely in the Midwest rather than the Northeast.

Originally Posted by bgallaher1

Then why on earth is it in the EASTERN time zone? just because you've heard other people call it the midwest does not make it the correct term. Does anyone who calls it midwestern own a map? Mississippi is south eastern but Ohio is mid western, yeah ok.

Look at a map again yourself. Sure Mississippi is further west than Ohio, but when looking at the country as a whole you can see the the SE coast is far more western than the NE coast. Maine and Mass. are a lot further east than Florida. That's why Mississippi can still be considered the Southeast, but Ohio not the Northeast.

According to the Census, Ohio is in the Midwest (more specifically the East North Central region with Indiana, Michigan, Illinois and Wisconsin)

[tribecavsbrowns]

Ohio's the Midwest. It ain't Iowa, but it's still the Midwest.

[warren zee]

Originally Posted by MABCle

I say North east. Ohio resembles the NE more than Nebraska and Iowa. North east Ohio was laid out by people from Connecticut: (Connecticut Western Reserve). I don't know how we got stuck with the midwest name plate, I'd prefer we were part of the Northeast or "The Great Lakes".

My part of PA was also pineered by people from Connecticut. Our history is much more similar to that of the Mid Western states than the Ner England states. I'd say the same about Western NY Syaye, Less NYC and more MI OH.

Great Lakes might work. Michigan is not Iowa to say the least,

The are called the Mid West has a lot more diversity than the area called the south does.

[bjimmy24]

I have lived in Cleveland and Columbus, and I feel that they are very different places. To me, Columbus seems much more "midwestern." I would never say that Cleveland is midwestern though. From my experience, Cleveland is much more similar to Pittsburgh and Buffalo than Indianapolis, for example. I like the term "Great Lakes" to describe Cleveland. There is kind of a northeastern influence here for sure, but it still isn't very Boston-y or New York-y, I think. I've been to Cincinnati several times too, and that's a totally different feel from either place. I don't know what to qualify Cincy as, but it doesn't really feel midwestern to me either.

[RememberMee]

Originally Posted by TheYO

Culturally, Ohio is definitely in the Midwest rather than the Northeast.

Could you outline those monstrous cultural differences between Northeast and Midwest? Looks the same to me. If you compare "culture" of a NE tax bracket to a corresponding Midwestern tax bracket, a gated "community" to a gated community, a trailer park to a trailer park, a ghetto to a ghetto, rural to rural, etc. the "cultures" are virtually identical. All the "cultural" differences boil down to a different tax bracket mix at a particular locale. The same is true about USA at large. Let's face it, USA is populated by centrally programmed "cultural" clones. Your "culture" is 100% related your current income/social class, it's virtually independent of your geographical location. The concept of "Midwest" has mild economical and geographical meaning, it has NO cultural meaning whatsoever.

[Evergrey]

Most of Ohio is firmly Midwest... but some of it is Appalachian... along the Ohio river south of Youngstown... west through Zanesville. Areas that are part of the Pittsburgh Tri-State (which overlaps with Appalachian Ohio), such as Steubenville and St. Clairsville, are not Midwest.

[foreverdublin21]

I agree Ohio is very independent state and most of that's due to it's location. Thus with it's founding of being historically separated from the original 13 Colonies by the Appalachian Mtns, close proximity to Ontario, Canada, and 3 of it's five largest metros are entirely in the state. Ohio is in the Midwest but essentially is apart of the Great Lakes region.

[13th Alphabet]

Originally Posted by RememberMee

Could you outline those monstrous cultural differences between Northeast and Midwest? Looks the same to me. If you compare "culture" of a NE tax bracket to a corresponding Midwestern tax bracket, a gated "community" to a gated community, a trailer park to a trailer park, a ghetto to a ghetto, rural to rural, etc. the "cultures" are virtually identical. All the "cultural" differences boil down to a different tax bracket mix at a particular locale. The same is true about USA at large. Let's face it, USA is populated by centrally programmed "cultural" clones. Your "culture" is 100% related your current income/social class, it's virtually independent of your geographical location. The concept of "Midwest" has mild economical and geographical meaning, it has NO cultural meaning whatsoever.

I agree with this 100 percent. People make it seem like citizens are drastically different from one another in each region of the United States. Excluding the accents and regional dialects of certain areas, people are a lot more similar than different when you classify them by socioeconomic class and education levels. The Northeast tends to get a bad rep for rude, stuck-up people, but that tends to coincide with wealth and high educational attainment; in which some of the wealthiest and highest educated Americans are densely clustered along the NE coast of the U.S. There are parts of Cincinnati's east side that are considered snooty that would fit in well in the DC area, just as I found the Chautauqua-Allegheny region of New York bearing strong similarities to Northern Alabama.

[tribecavsbrowns]

Originally Posted by RememberMee

Could you outline those monstrous cultural differences between Northeast and Midwest? Looks the same to me. If you compare "culture" of a NE tax bracket to a corresponding Midwestern tax bracket, a gated "community" to a gated community, a trailer park to a trailer park, a ghetto to a ghetto, rural to rural, etc. the "cultures" are virtually identical. All the "cultural" differences boil down to a different tax bracket mix at a particular locale. The same is true about USA at large. Let's face it, USA is populated by centrally programmed "cultural" clones. Your "culture" is 100% related your current income/social class, it's virtually independent of your geographical location. The concept of "Midwest" has mild economical and geographical meaning, it has NO cultural meaning whatsoever.

Ever read The Great Gatsby? The difference absolutely still exists. "No cultural meaning whatsoever" -- you're quite wrong there.