Here are the reasons why people leave OC and SoCal (Orange: middle-class, transplants)

[DinsdalePirahna]

Originally Posted by a333

From that article, Bend, Boise, and Surprise, AZ do not want Californians.

The irony.

yep. the irony. the people leaving are essentially the "leave-me-alone" redneck types that would be very happy in those areas - yet the locals consider them "California liberals"

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by DinsdalePirahna

yep. the irony. the people leaving are essentially the "leave-me-alone" redneck types that would be very happy in those areas - yet the locals consider them "California liberals"

Now that is sooo stupid, it really shows the type that stay.

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by DinsdalePirahna

yep. the irony. the people leaving are essentially the "leave-me-alone" redneck types that would be very happy in those areas - yet the locals consider them "California liberals"

This is spoken like someone who has never traveled out of their $4500 a month studio apartment in SOMA San Francisco.

I own properties in different states and maintain my primary residence out of state. I let people know all the time that I used to live in California, and guess what? We go out, drink beers, play golf, shoot guns together, do business deals, and make money together. They do think I'm a bit metrosexual, but that's because I like slim fit high thread count suits.

If you're going out of state and acting like a complete pissant, then yes, people in other states will call it like it is (unlike California where you get mostly the fakers and other pissants).

[SportyandMisty]

Originally Posted by CaliRestoration

We go out, drink beers, play golf, shoot guns together...

OMG! Beer instead of wine??? shoot guns???

[Shredding_Gnar78]

Most people here in Austin blame us for influx. Yet its our influence that is the main factor... everyone is moving here from everywhere. i'm just trying to come home to the lonely sea

when i was a young boy, Irvine was heaven. Orange trees and strawberry fields forever. The Eucalyptus trees filled in the horizon and there were olive trees at heritage park.

when i was a teen growing up in tustin, we would fill paper bags with avocados. drink beers in cowan heights, hit the wedge in newport, chill at main st in HB. i'm so fortunate!

now that i'm a man and have seen more of the world, Irvine is one of the worst places for me. The core of OC is great for business and good food, but its a grind. i've found that oc lacks art vibed coffee shops. the beaches are of course still great but SD and SB have better shores imo. I still love Laguna... how can you not?

[Bert_from_back_East]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

-Forcing parents to vaccinate

That is, hands down, the most bizarre reason to move to another state I've ever heard.

Growing up, I went to a pediatrician who was Harvard-educated and the best of the best in New England. In a roundabout way, he would explain to parents that, if you don't vaccinate your kids, GTFO of my office. Vaccinations are very, very important to individual and public health.

I'm glad to see twits like that dope from Ladera Ranch leave. Good riddance!

[Electrician4you]

Originally Posted by Shredding_Gnar78

Most people here in Austin blame us for influx. Yet its our influence that is the main factor... everyone is moving here from everywhere. i'm just trying to come home to the lonely sea

when i was a young boy, Irvine was heaven. Orange trees and strawberry fields forever. The Eucalyptus trees filled in the horizon and there were olive trees at heritage park.

when i was a teen growing up in tustin, we would fill paper bags with avocados. drink beers in cowan heights, hit the wedge in newport, chill at main st in HB. i'm so fortunate!

now that i'm a man and have seen more of the world, Irvine is one of the worst places for me. The core of OC is great for business and good food, but its a grind. i've found that oc lacks art vibed coffee shops. the beaches are of course still great but SD and SB have better shores imo. I still love Laguna... how can you not?

Beaches in OC are so overcrowded now it's insane. I remember having campfires on the beach walking and on sime nights there were no people. I remember cruising Newport Bl on the peninsula. So Cal is just crowded. Usually in order to slow demand you raise prices. I just heard n the radio that home prices in LA and OC went up 6%

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by SportyandMisty

OMG! Beer instead of wine??? shoot guns???

Yeah, can you imagine?

I've gone out and went skeet shooting with business partners, WHILE drinking a beer. It's a miracle no one was killed, and that these "red necks" had any money at all. I mean one of them is a partner in one of the biggest angel networks in the South, I'm talking over $1.2 billion in collective capital between all angels, and he totally shoots guns, hates California liberals, and drives a McLaren 570.

How did such a low life get to where he is in life living outside of such hallowed centers of wealth and intellectual echo chambers like San Francisco or Los Angeles?

A true intellectual sets up roots in San Francisco, pays half of their take home W2 pay to rent a one bedroom half a block away from gang turf. That's the ONLY way to be considered a true intellectual in California!

[BB_210]

The poors of California vote for ridiculous taxes to receive benefits, they are taxing themselves into more poorness. Then they move out because they can't afford to live here and start voting for the same policies that made California so expensive. See Colorado. This state cares more about homeless, illegals and the desert tortoise than its citizens.

[mrwumpus]

OC illustrates the universal truth that any place can be ruined by overcrowding and overdevelopment.

Outside of tourists or social anthropologists, I don't know anyone who would enjoy Huntington Beach, Disneyland, or even Yosemite for that matter, during peak season. I hear even the Sistine Chapel is an unpleasant experience on a crowded day.

The trick is that when you live there, you know it isn't always that bad. You can still get lucky or time it right to enjoy a glorious day in Huntington Beach where you don't spend 30 minutes trying to park (or 60 minutes in traffic to get there). But if you lived there 30 years ago and remember Huntington Beach always being a pleasure, your inescapable conclusion is that returns are diminishing. For you, OC is becoming less like OC and more like a crowded theme park with long lines.

Meanwhile, the price of admission increases while the chance of enjoying yourself decreases.

Still, OC's weather remains a constant pleasure. If you hole up in a $700k+ single family home and plan your outings right, it can still be a pretty good life.