Gas station attendants with poor work ethic. Time to repeal self pump ban (Portland: tax, live in)

[ccjarider]

TechmanOR:
Nice! - You speak with reason and sanity.

[ccjarider]

Originally Posted by hamellr

Ahh... see now we're getting to the root of the issue and your hatred against the noble profession of Gas Pump Attendant.

Here's an idea for you. Offer to pay one of these petrol purveyors to go back to school, in a field that you'd be willing to hire from, in return for a ten year exclusive contract to work for you and you only.

Failing that, Lobby the State of Oregon to increase taxes and dedicate the revenue exclusively to Education in the State with an eye to 100% high school graduation rates across the state, along with significantly cheap or free college education. Be sure to have a rider that says the funding can't be touched for any other reason because those Congress People can get a little gun ho about short term "job creating" projects in their districts that benefit their brother's wife's father's company.

In 20-40 years you'll be seen as a hero and a "visionary thinker," and you'll single handedly have turned the State's economy around. You'll go down in history as one of Oregon's favorite citizens, right up there with Meek, Packwood, and McCall.

Or... you can join the Republican party and their golden goose economic policies.

It would be much easier to just push for getting rid of this stupid law.

Why on earth would I want corrupt, innefficient, government wasting money on "free" education. You state it yourself - gov't is incapable of performing it's intended duties due to human nature.

I really have no interest in being an Oregon visionary!! Given my nature and the prevailing thought processes here on the left coast - That would really be an uphill battle

[Larry Caldwell]

I just don't agree with the comments about self service being quicker. I just got back from a trip to Nevada. Drive into a service station and there's no attendant, so check the pump number, go inside to pay, go back out to pump my gas, go back inside to pay, go back outside and finally leave. Getting gas takes twice as long, but there's no line at the pumps because it takes twice as many service stations to meet demand. Their volume is smaller, so they have higher gas prices to make up for it. All the adjoining states have higher priced gasoline than Oregon, so those folks get to pay higher prices for less service and convenience.

My favorite gas station has a 15,000 gallon regular tank, and needs a delivery every 2 days or they will run out. The pump jockeys are running their tails off, pushing cars through way faster than self serve. The only ones who benefit from self serve are the big oil companies. Self serve does nothing for the customers or for the workers.

[Dual Citizen CA-OR]

Originally Posted by ccjarider

Yes - I would. This is not valuable work...

The majority of Oregonian’s have proven time and time again that it is valuable.

Originally Posted by ccjarider

...Give me a break...

No I don’t believe I will. I’m sick to death of watching conservatives and their political party give the wealthy break after break for friggin decades. It’s well past time for the rest of us start getting the breaks.

Originally Posted by ccjarider

...You might as well ask if the hobo standing at my intersection holding a sign asking for money is working?

You might as well ask the trust baby golfing at the country club the same question.

[fearnofish]

Originally Posted by Larry Caldwell

I just don't agree with the comments about self service being quicker. I just got back from a trip to Nevada... , so check the pump number, go inside to pay, go back out to pump my gas, go back inside to pay, go back outside and finally leave. ...

If this is how you get gas all the time then yes an attendent would be faster. However I would have to think the majority of the people can pull up to the pump and insert their credit card and pump their own gas a lot faster than waiting for an attendant.

I personally am still for being able to pump your own gas on most days. When it is nasty weather out I am glad to see the attendant coming so I don't have to get out of my car though.

[Squidlo]

I use self serve here once a week or so and fill my tank to the top. I use a credit card and complete that transaction in under a minute. Pumping the fuel will take the same amount of time if I do it or someone else does. The best part is I do not wait for someone to come back and pull the nozzle out so I can leave.


I am not wealthy. My time however is very valuable to me. The biggest break you can give me is to not waste my time. The wealthy will not roll over and give us their money, not going to happen. Stop dreaming about some grand wealth redistribution scheme. Get busy and make the most of what you have. With scarce resources the free rides will be harder to get.

[ccjarider]

Originally Posted by Dual Citizen CA-OR

The majority of Oregonian’s have proven time and time again that it is valuable.

No I don’t believe I will. I’m sick to death of watching conservatives and their political party give the wealthy break after break for friggin decades. It’s well past time for the rest of us start getting the breaks.


You might as well ask the trust baby golfing at the country club the same question.

This entire post is just off base.

Bashing the rich??? Getting more breaks in life?? trust fund babies??? Not sure what any of this has to do with dirt bag gas pushers.

[Larry Caldwell]

Originally Posted by fearnofish

If this is how you get gas all the time then yes an attendent would be faster. However I would have to think the majority of the people can pull up to the pump and insert their credit card and pump their own gas a lot faster than waiting for an attendant.

I have a moral problem with using a credit card rather than money. The credit card duopoly is one of the primary reasons small businesses can't make a go of it, so I limit credit card use to dire emergencies and pay cash wherever possible. It's also cheaper to fill up the tank for cash, sometimes several cents a gallon cheaper.

Those swipe fees are aptly named, because they swipe money from your pocket every time you use a credit card, to the tune of billions of dollars a year from Joe and Jane American.

[Larry Caldwell]

Originally Posted by ccjarider

This entire post is just off base.

Bashing the rich??? Getting more breaks in life?? trust fund babies??? Not sure what any of this has to do with dirt bag gas pushers.

Bashing honest working people, and defending parasitical high buck scumbags?

[fearnofish]

Originally Posted by Larry Caldwell

I have a moral problem with using a credit card rather than money. The credit card duopoly is one of the primary reasons small businesses can't make a go of it, so I limit credit card use to dire emergencies and pay cash wherever possible. It's also cheaper to fill up the tank for cash, sometimes several cents a gallon cheaper.

Those swipe fees are aptly named, because they swipe money from your pocket every time you use a credit card, to the tune of billions of dollars a year from Joe and Jane American.

Okay to each his own... I agree it is sometimes cheaper for gas but that cash discount is widely disappearing it seems.