If At First You Don't Secede, Try, Try Again

[Terryj]

I saw on the news a couple of weeks ago that the Siskiyou county commissioners passed a resolution to withdraw from the state of California, they sighted the reason for this is under current California regulations the state in bankrupting the county. This idea has been in the works since the mid to late 30's, if one understands the reason behind this action it does have merit.
Northern California has been the "red headed step child" ever since California drew up it borders and nothing has changed. Most of the tax base in California resides south of San Francisco and that is where all the tax dollars go leaving Northern California with just the crumbs, it's kind of like the way Oregon treats the counties south of Linn County. I can understand their frustration.

[BlackShoe]

Originally Posted by PNW-type-gal

You go, California. Leave Oregon out of it.

We might have to. The movement seems to be losing Oregon. While two California counties have voted for secession, sentiment seems to be not as strong for it in Southern Oregon. In the still very unlikely possibility of there being a state of Jefferson, it might just be the inland counties of Northern California, with most likely Redding as the capital.

[PNW-type-gal]

Originally Posted by Terryj

Northern California has been the "red headed step child" ever since California drew up it borders and nothing has changed. Most of the tax base in California resides south of San Francisco and that is where all the tax dollars go leaving Northern California with just the crumbs, it's kind of like the way Oregon treats the counties south of Linn County. I can understand their frustration.

You'd have to prove that the rural counties don't have the same rate of return in tax dollars that urban counties do - and I think that'll be a hard proof. From studies I have seen in other states, urban areas generate most of the state funds and rural counties receive a disproportionate share of state revenue in return.

[oregonwoodsmoke]

Originally Posted by PNW-type-gal

........ From studies I have seen in other states, urban areas generate most of the state funds and rural counties receive a disproportionate share of state revenue in return.

The last study I saw, stated that people in Portland Oregon received $1.70 in benefits for every tax dollar spent. The residents of Bend received $0.38 cents of benefit for every tax dollar the spent. The rural people East of the Cascades receive $0.11 cents in benefit for every tax dollar they spent.

So where is all this money going that the big cities are sending out to farm country?

[PNW-type-gal]

Originally Posted by oregonwoodsmoke

The last study I saw, stated that people in Portland Oregon received $1.70 in benefits for every tax dollar spent. The residents of Bend received $0.38 cents of benefit for every tax dollar the spent. The rural people East of the Cascades receive $0.11 cents in benefit for every tax dollar they spent.

So where is all this money going that the big cities are sending out to farm country?

I'd have to see that study, because most of the studies I have seen go the other way. Here's a story on that from Washington from 2008 (although, note that headline is wrong, it is not so much "red" vs "blue" as it is "highly urban" versus "everyone else.")

Welfare State by Goldy - Seattle News - The Stranger, Seattle's Only Newspaper

[Deezus]

Originally Posted by oregonwoodsmoke

The last study I saw, stated that people in Portland Oregon received $1.70 in benefits for every tax dollar spent. The residents of Bend received $0.38 cents of benefit for every tax dollar the spent. The rural people East of the Cascades receive $0.11 cents in benefit for every tax dollar they spent.

So where is all this money going that the big cities are sending out to farm country?

You should provide a link to that study.

Because logically, since we do know that the Portland Metro provides the bulk of the tax revenue in Oregon, for what your claiming to be true would mean that rural Eastern Oregon counties had a higher per capita tax burden than Multnomah or Washington or Clackamas Counties and/or received basically little per capita spending on education or other social services.

This isn't the best link, but it provides some actual data showing fiscal outflow and inflow to the Portland metro.

http://ir.library.oregonstate.edu/xm...ppt?sequence=1