09-29-2014, 03:50 PM
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I was born in Southern California and later on moved to Florida, most of that time living in South Florida (Fort. Lauderdale area) and now in Central Florida, so I've been exposed to hot/warm weather with sunny days basically all my life. For the past year I've been thinking of maybe finally moving out of Florida eventually, after I finish my schooling (I'm in college currently). Sure Florida has it's perks: the nice beaches and theme parks (both of which I only visit maybe 1-2 a year to be honest), but even after living here for many years, I cannot ever get used to these horrible blazing hot summers (sometimes a bit too warm springs/falls) with high humidity. I can't even take my dogs out for a second without just sweating and feeling faint from the heat, it actually gets that bad sometimes. It's warm most of the year, where I live it starts to get cold maybe November, and thats only in the early mornings/late nights. Probably around January it actually gets chilly all day, but it stays in the 50s or 60s throughout the day, and it gets warmer again by late February/March, so you don't really get to enjoy the cooler weather for long, then it's right back up to the hot weather. I've just been here for so long, I'm kinda starting to get sick of Florida.
I've been fascinated with the Pacific NW, and thought that Oregon might be a nice place. I haven't been before, so of course I have to plan a trip over there to check out the areas and see what they have to offer. Could anyone tell me how living over there is like? What places are more ideal to visit/live? I think Portland (or at least the surrounding area) would be lovely, from what I've heard in the past. Also how is the weather? Does it get terribly cold? How are the summers? I'm assuming better than Florida's. Also a big thing is, does it rain/get very dark and cloudy as often as everyone says it does? I'm just so used to the sunny days here (however we've been getting dark rainy days here for the past 2 weeks), that I'm a bit afraid that it can be depressing. I do love the rain, but it makes me feel tired and blah. Are you used to it? How about crime? Anything else?
I'm just looking for a change. I'm so used to being here that I'm afraid I might regret it, but hey why not give it a shot and step out of my comfort-zone. Any tips on doing a pretty big move like this would be helpful. Thank you.
09-29-2014, 09:38 PM
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Find a job before you move!
09-30-2014, 12:53 PM
Location: Dallas, Oregon & Sunsites Arizona
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Find a job before you move!
Good advice assuming a job is needed.
But the questions asked seem to indicate Oregon is not for you. If those questions represent your concerns, look elsewhere. You won't be happy here.
10-01-2014, 07:18 AM
Location: Sebastian, Florida
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My husband and I are in the process of relocating from Florida to Oregon. We chose the Pacific Northwest precisely because it is about as different from Florida as you can get. We then chose the Portland area because we like city amenities, but not big cities. We started by visiting a few times during the winter. Since it sounds as if you are still enamored of Florida sunshine, I suggest you plan a trip in December or January when the days are short, dark and rainy, and imagine what your life would be like if several months of the year felt like that. If you still want to move, start visiting different areas and narrow down which parts you like most. There is incredible diversity in the geography here.
Moving 3,000 miles isn't inexpensive. The moving company wouldn't even give me a written estimate when I told them we were paying for it ourselves and it wasn't a corporate relocation. The ballpark he gave me was $$15,000-$20,000 for packing and moving about 50% of our Florida house's contents. So, we're selling everything at auction. You can buy 20 coffee tables for the price it takes to move one that far.
I don't know you, but unless you're incredibly dissatisfied with Florida, I think you might not like it. It's about as unlike Florida as you can get, except for maybe Alaska. Go for a visit in the winter, and then decide. There is really no way to do this except to visit and experience it firsthand.
Good luck!
10-01-2014, 09:25 AM
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Smart decision to sell your household goods, chances are your current furniture wouldn't suit your next residence in any case..
10-01-2014, 10:48 AM
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My husband and I are in the process of relocating from Florida to Oregon. We chose the Pacific Northwest precisely because it is about as different from Florida as you can get. We then chose the Portland area because we like city amenities, but not big cities. We started by visiting a few times during the winter. Since it sounds as if you are still enamored of Florida sunshine, I suggest you plan a trip in December or January when the days are short, dark and rainy, and imagine what your life would be like if several months of the year felt like that. If you still want to move, start visiting different areas and narrow down which parts you like most. There is incredible diversity in the geography here.
Moving 3,000 miles isn't inexpensive. The moving company wouldn't even give me a written estimate when I told them we were paying for it ourselves and it wasn't a corporate relocation. The ballpark he gave me was $$15,000-$20,000 for packing and moving about 50% of our Florida house's contents. So, we're selling everything at auction. You can buy 20 coffee tables for the price it takes to move one that far.
I don't know you, but unless you're incredibly dissatisfied with Florida, I think you might not like it. It's about as unlike Florida as you can get, except for maybe Alaska. Go for a visit in the winter, and then decide. There is really no way to do this except to visit and experience it firsthand.
Good luck!
I think somebody was trying to rip you off. I priced a uhaul truck from Tampa to the Oregon coast and it was about $2000, not including fuel. Figure 3000 mi. @5 miles per gallon, and that 600 gallons of fuel. At $4/per gallon that's $2600 or about $4600 total.
If a person is willing to pack up their own furniture and they don't have a mansion to move, they should be able to pack it all in one large 26' truck.
10-01-2014, 12:18 PM
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I think somebody was trying to rip you off. I priced a uhaul truck from Tampa to the Oregon coast and it was about $2000, not including fuel. Figure 3000 mi. @5 miles per gallon, and that 600 gallons of fuel. At $4/per gallon that's $2600 or about $4600 total.
If a person is willing to pack up their own furniture and they don't have a mansion to move, they should be able to pack it all in one large 26' truck.
The prior post was about an actual moving company (packing, driving, unloading), not the do-it-yourself of U-haul. From the quote I'm guessing they also own a lot of stuff in a big home. Moving a 2BR apt from the rust belt to OR cost about $4,000 using movers, and that was 5 years ago when gas was cheap during the recession.
But you're right that the OP probably does not need professional movers, and almost certainly owns less stuff.
OP said:
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I do love the rain, but it makes me feel tired and blah.
. That should probably deter you from making the move. It's possible you could benefit from some sort of SAD treatment, but a FL-PNW move is an expensive investment to come to a place where it can be gray for weeks on end.
Before looking this far out, I'd look nearer by - maybe Asheville or Pittsburgh or even Columbus?
10-01-2014, 01:55 PM
Location: Dallas, Oregon & Sunsites Arizona
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I think somebody was trying to rip you off. I priced a uhaul truck from Tampa to the Oregon coast and it was about $2000, not including fuel. Figure 3000 mi. @5 miles per gallon, and that 600 gallons of fuel. At $4/per gallon that's $2600 or about $4600 total.
If a person is willing to pack up their own furniture and they don't have a mansion to move, they should be able to pack it all in one large 26' truck.
Now ask yourself, did you really have $4,600 of stuff to move. Keep in mind you added that value on top of what you paid for it. Plus you most likely had cars or a car to move also, and hotel/motel and meals for three to five days. And I doubt you actually got 5 MPG. Oh wait. I see you only priced it.
Well here are the real numbers for a medium U-Haul and one car from Orlando to Portland. The move cost $12,000. My friend who made the move said the stuff was worth maybe $5,000 and he would never do that again. And this was just last year.
10-01-2014, 02:28 PM
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Now ask yourself, did you really have $4,600 of stuff to move. Keep in mind you added that value on top of what you paid for it. Plus you most likely had cars or a car to move also, and hotel/motel and meals for three to five days. And I doubt you actually got 5 MPG. Oh wait. I see you only priced it.
Well here are the real numbers for a medium U-Haul and one car from Orlando to Portland. The move cost $12,000. My friend who made the move said the stuff was worth maybe $5,000 and he would never do that again. And this was just last year.
Well your friend is an idiot if he spent $7000+ on food, lodging and gas for his other car to get it out there.
no offense.
10-01-2014, 02:31 PM
Location: Dallas, Oregon & Sunsites Arizona
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Why the name calling? Most of the cost was the moving truck and fuel for it. The mileage was close to 3 MPG. We talked about it at length over a game of cards and he had a lot to say about the foolishness of hauling "STUFF" 3,300 miles.
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People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)