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Old 10-08-2016, 10:27 PM
 
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I graduate in May with a Public Health major.
Salem is not a bad drive to OSU in case you decide to do graduate work there. Salem is so much affordable than Portland and is only an hour drive to Portland. It's a two hour drive to Bend, which is a great area for young people, from what I observed on my few visits. I also think you will have more in common with residents in the Salem area from your what you said about loving Vermont. Young Portlanders wear outdoor gear mostly to stay dry on bikes in the city. Plus, your passion for guns makes me think you won't be a great fit with he youngsters in Portland.
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Old 10-08-2016, 11:07 PM
 
Location: PHX -> ATL
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Salem is not a bad drive to OSU in case you decide to do graduate work there. Salem is so much affordable than Portland and is only an hour drive to Portland. It's a two hour drive to Bend, which is a great area for young people, from what I observed on my few visits. I also think you will have more in common with residents in the Salem area from your what you said about loving Vermont. Young Portlanders wear outdoor gear mostly to stay dry on bikes in the city. Plus, your passion for guns makes me think you won't be a great fit with he youngsters in Portland.
That's why I posted about this because I felt like Portland being well.... Portland, Oregon might change drastically on this front. That's why I made this thread. Like I said earlier it is one of the few differences that an outsider can see between Oregon and Washington, if I wanted to give up my rights I could just move to Washington instead.
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Old 10-08-2016, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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Interesting. Is it Oregon's big cities that do this?

Also if you are a gun owner are you still allowed to use marijuana? I know in Arizona if you have a medical card you can't own guns.
As far as I know, only Portland, Beaverton, Tigard, Oregon City, Salem, and Independence ban open carry in public, though statewide you have to lock and secure a firearm on school property, and can't carry in public buildings like a courthouse or post office. When I go mushroom hunting I strap on a stainless .357 revolver in a secure sidearm holster with a snap flap. If I stop to have lunch or dinner, I don't leave it in my pickup and nobody ever says anything. I don't have a car safe, and it's more secure to keep it with me.

Since marijuana is legal in Oregon I doubt there is any more restriction there than there is with alcohol. It's frowned on, but not illegal. Show up drunk or stoned at my rod and gun club and you will be escorted off the property.
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Old 10-08-2016, 11:21 PM
 
Location: PHX -> ATL
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As far as I know, only Portland, Beaverton, Tigard, Oregon City, Salem, and Independence ban open carry in public, though statewide you have to lock and secure a firearm on school property, and can't carry in public buildings like a courthouse or post office. When I go mushroom hunting I strap on a stainless .357 revolver in a secure sidearm holster with a snap flap. If I stop to have lunch or dinner, I don't leave it in my pickup and nobody ever says anything. I don't have a car safe, and it's more secure to keep it with me.

Since marijuana is legal in Oregon I doubt there is any more restriction there than there is with alcohol. It's frowned on, but not illegal. Show up drunk or stoned at my rod and gun club and you will be escorted off the property.
Well if I was high or drunk I wouldn't go shoot haha. I mean here in Arizona I can't own guns and have a medical card it's against the law. Whether on the substance or not if you're caught with a card and guns you are in big trouble here.
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Old 10-09-2016, 08:38 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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.......Also, does Oregon have a castle doctrine? ..........
I don't think so. At least not for what my understanding of what castle doctrine means. You can't shoot someone for being in your house or on your property. That person must present a very clear threat to your life or to someone else before you can shoot them.

You can't shoot anyone over property without facing some legal problems.

There won't be a lot of test cases because home invasions are very rare. Our local bad guys prefer to car prowl, or if they go into a home it is when no one is there. Shootings in the home tend to be a couple of long term buddies who are drunk as skunks, or occasionally a husband thinks it will be easier to shoot his wife than it would be to get a divorce and both of that type of shooting is rare. The majority of shootings involve drug dealers or other crooks falling out.
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Old 10-09-2016, 08:42 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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..........most cities don't allow it and Oregon allows cities to decide.
The thing about the people who live in Portland, Salem, and Eugene is that they are convinced that no other place exists in Oregon outside of their big cities.

Salem might not allow open carry, but most cities in Oregon do. You just need to count all of the cities and towns in Eastern Oregon. Yes, we are over here. Hello?
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Old 10-09-2016, 09:00 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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......... culture of Oregon is shifting to be more like your west coast neighbors.
There are a lot of Progressive, socialist, liberal, and communist neighbors moving into Oregon and bringing their ideas of what Oregon should be like from the state they came from. They moved away from their state becasue they couldn't stand it any longer and then immediately set out to turn Oregon into a clone of where they came from.

There are enough of them to outvote the resident Oregonians, so, yes, the law might be changed in the future. They've already saddled us with a lot of feel good legislation and higher taxes.
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Old 10-09-2016, 11:12 AM
 
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There are a lot of Progressive, socialist, liberal, and communist neighbors moving into Oregon and bringing their ideas of what Oregon should be like from the state they came from. They moved away from their state becasue they couldn't stand it any longer and then immediately set out to turn Oregon into a clone of where they came from.

There are enough of them to outvote the resident Oregonians, so, yes, the law might be changed in the future. They've already saddled us with a lot of feel good legislation and higher taxes.
Look at the sheer number of liberals vs conservatives in the US and you will see you are outnumbered. Of course, liberals will move ALL OVER the country and into YOUR neck of the woods. You will see change and not like it, maybe. But from what I see from my daughter's generation," Generation Z", being progressive is the norm. They will be the largest generation by 2020, and they will vote. The generation will turn the country to its agenda. Thankfully conservatives that can't deal with change will be only on the earth for a little longer. The world is a changin'...
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Old 10-09-2016, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Look at the sheer number of liberals vs conservatives in the US and you will see you are outnumbered. Of course, liberals will move ALL OVER the country and into YOUR neck of the woods. You will see change and not like it, maybe. But from what I see from my daughter's generation," Generation Z", being progressive is the norm. They will be the largest generation by 2020, and they will vote. The generation will turn the country to its agenda. Thankfully conservatives that can't deal with change will be only on the earth for a little longer. The world is a changin'...
Maybe, maybe not. The trend currently is for liberal young people to congregate in high-density urban environments-- from what I've seen, most don't seem to have much interest in small town or rural living (not "walkable"!)-- and this, if it continues, will make the blue areas even bluer but not do much to red areas. If anything it will just segregate liberal areas from conservative areas even more. Most of the liberal young people I know do not want to colonize a conservative area, they want to be amongst others of their own kind and will even relocate across state lines primarily for that purpose. Portland seems to be a popular "dream" location for a lot of them. And most of the young far-left counterculture types I know, at least the ones here in Southern California, don't vote. Lots of them seem to see voting as patriotic and therefore uncool, or not a priority, or say they don't bother voting because "the system is rigged", etc., etc.
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Old 10-09-2016, 12:08 PM
 
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Maybe, maybe not. The trend currently is for liberal young people to congregate in high-density urban environments-- from what I've seen, most don't seem to have much interest in small town or rural living (not "walkable"!)-- and this, if it continues, will make the blue areas even bluer but not do much to red areas. If anything it will just segregate liberal areas from conservative areas even more. Most of the liberal young people I know do not want to colonize a conservative area, they want to be amongst others of their own kind and will even relocate across state lines primarily for that purpose. Portland seems to be a popular "dream" location for a lot of them. And most of the young far-left counterculture types I know, at least the ones here in Southern California, don't vote. Lots of them seem to see voting as patriotic and therefore uncool, or not a priority, or say they don't bother voting because "the system is rigged", etc., etc.
What I am saying is there are more liberals in the country than conservatives. For example, the Tri- State area is 38 million people and the majority is more liberal. There are states in the country that don't have that many residents combined. There are just more liberals period. Are red states turning blue? I hope so. My kids' generation is called " the YouTube generation". They create their own " stars" and they tend to be very LBGTQ friendly, more racially and ethnically diverse and are rejecting social norms that promote gender roles. This is reality. Use your own Google fu. Check out Forester Research. This is the way the country is going.
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