Sunrail ridership Up, Looks like an Epic Success!! (Orlando, Lake Mary: costs, nightlife)

[0nyxStation]

Originally Posted by Arcenal352

I have nothing against having a commuter rail go through the metro. I just think this **** needs to be elevated, much like the one in Miami.
This idiotic idea that they should use the existing rail that cuts through major thoroughfares is beyond stupid.

I agree or at lease car viaducts over the major crossing anything with more than 3 lanes both ways should get a viaduct, one laners? No. Arcenal are you caught by the trains often? If so how often does it happen to you? The trains are not that long so how long do the crossing gates stay down?

[Joey Falcon]

Originally Posted by 0nyxStation

This is going to make some posters pull all their hair out.....

Osceola County celebrates $93 million grant for SunRail - Orlando Sentinel

Well, I don't have a problem with them building it in Osceola, but Sunrail should only be used by responsible people. Not thugs who ride from Kissimmee to Lake Mary to murder people.

[0nyxStation]

Originally Posted by Joey Falcon

Well, I don't have a problem with them building it in Osceola, but Sunrail should only be used by responsible people. Not thugs who ride from Kissimmee to Lake Mary to murder people.

well, thugs, christians, Puerto Ricans, homosexuals, Magic fans, Publix employees and snake charmers are all using Sunrail. Why single out the thugs? Publix employees can be murderers too.

Tarpon Springs Publix worker to go on trial in 2010 fatal shooting | Tampa Bay Times

[bmw335xi]

Originally Posted by 0nyxStation

well, thugs, christians, Puerto Ricans, homosexuals, Magic fans, Publix employees and snake charmers are all using Sunrail. Why single out the thugs? Publix employees can be murderers too.

Tarpon Springs Publix worker to go on trial in 2010 fatal shooting | Tampa Bay Times

Joey already said in a previous thread that he doesn't feel safe to go inside a Publix because there was a fight on the news at one of their locations. He added that he told his GF to shop at Winn Dixie instead of Publix for safety reasons.

I wish I was making this ______ up, but I promise I'm not hehehe

[Arcenal813]

Originally Posted by 0nyxStation

I agree or at lease car viaducts over the major crossing anything with more than 3 lanes both ways should get a viaduct, one laners? No. Arcenal are you caught by the trains often? If so how often does it happen to you? The trains are not that long so how long do the crossing gates stay down?

In Longwood, the tracks cut across 434 just a few feet before the Ronald Reagan intersection. You have two major thoroughfares, a very busy intersection, and now, a train that cuts in front of it.
It's not about how long it takes for it to pass -- it's very quick -- it's about the mess it creates due to its location. It's like having two conflicting traffic lights 3 car lengths from each other.

[MrKnight]

Originally Posted by Arcenal352

In Longwood, the tracks cut across 434 just a few feet before the Ronald Reagan intersection. You have two major thoroughfares, a very busy intersection, and now, a train that cuts in front of it.
It's not about how long it takes for it to pass -- it's very quick -- it's about the mess it creates due to its location. It's like having two conflicting traffic lights 3 car lengths from each other.

This is the outcome of excessive urban sprawl and poor road planning, the only solution would have been for an elevated track to be built in this area, however, this would require a significant financial investment from the City of Longwood or Seminole County which I doubt they are willing to fork up..

[0nyxStation]

Originally Posted by Arcenal352

In Longwood, the tracks cut across 434 just a few feet before the Ronald Reagan intersection. You have two major thoroughfares, a very busy intersection, and now, a train that cuts in front of it.
It's not about how long it takes for it to pass -- it's very quick -- it's about the mess it creates due to its location. It's like having two conflicting traffic lights 3 car lengths from each other.

Well I wasnt trying to argue or anything I was just curious where the mess is if the train comes through the intersection very quickly. It was sounding like the trains stop at the intersection to pick up and drop off riders causing traffic to pile up, but if Sunrail just goes through it quickly Im sure the traffic lights would work everything out. Maybe this particular stop does need a viaduct then?

[Bellamouse]

Originally Posted by Arcenal352

In Longwood, the tracks cut across 434 just a few feet before the Ronald Reagan intersection. You have two major thoroughfares, a very busy intersection, and now, a train that cuts in front of it.
It's not about how long it takes for it to pass -- it's very quick -- it's about the mess it creates due to its location. It's like having two conflicting traffic lights 3 car lengths from each other.

You had better not go to Chicago then. This kind of thing is EVERYWHERE. And 1000 times worse in terms of the snarled traffic it causes.

This is where I used to live:

Devon/Caldwell/Central/Lehigh/Canadian Pacific R.R./Metra Intersection - Chicago, Illinois


FOUR major roads cross here, in addition to the train.

Nightmare Central.

And the Metra trains in Chicago run FAR more often then the once an hour SunRail trains down here. So the traffic is always a mess during rush hour.

[Arcenal813]

Originally Posted by 0nyxStation

Well I wasnt trying to argue or anything I was just curious where the mess is if the train comes through the intersection very quickly. It was sounding like the trains stop at the intersection to pick up and drop off riders causing traffic to pile up, but if Sunrail just goes through it quickly Im sure the traffic lights would work everything out. Maybe this particular stop does need a viaduct then?

Didn't think you were trying to argue at all .

The issue is that it's just too close to such a major intersection/traffic signal.

Here's an article that goes into deeper detail about this particular stretch:

Florida transportation officials promise relief at three major railroad crossings in Longwood - Orlando Sentinel

I like the idea of the Sunrail -- I've considered using it to get to the gym and back from work -- it just needs MAJOR improvements to be efficient.

[Arcenal813]

Originally Posted by Bellamouse

You had better not go to Chicago then. This kind of thing is EVERYWHERE. And 1000 times worse in terms of the snarled traffic it causes.

This is where I used to live:

Devon/Caldwell/Central/Lehigh/Canadian Pacific R.R./Metra Intersection - Chicago, Illinois


FOUR major roads cross here, in addition to the train.

Nightmare Central.

And the Metra trains in Chicago run FAR more often then the once an hour SunRail trains down here. So the traffic is always a mess during rush hour.

Doesn't take away from the fact that it's a poor and extremely dangerous design.

Chicago needs a commuter rail, whereas Orlando doesn't particularly. Therefore, Orlando should not have rushed to put this thing into operation. The city had plenty of time to develop a cohesive, functional system. They didn't.