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View Poll Results: Do you believe smokers are ashamed of or dislike their addiction?
Yes 17 34.00%
No 33 66.00%
Voters: 50. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-23-2014, 10:42 AM
 
Location: southern born and southern bred
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Perhaps ashamed wasn't the best choice of words, but I'll keep it in there, because I see that some people actually were. Interesting responses so far though. I believe smoking is down in numbers today compared to just about any time in the past, I wonder what's driving down the numbers today?

too too bad the numbers aren't going down for people who use alcohol-period. And for those who drink and drive and text and drive.
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Old 03-23-2014, 10:52 AM
 
Location: home state of Myrtle Beach!
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Perhaps ashamed wasn't the best choice of words, but I'll keep it in there, because I see that some people actually were. Interesting responses so far though. I believe smoking is down in numbers today compared to just about any time in the past, I wonder what's driving down the numbers today?
Vaping! And everyone using an ecig is laughing all the way to the bank! Cities, States and Feds don't like this so some are looking at taxing VAPOR because of the lost revenue.
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Old 03-23-2014, 11:14 AM
 
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Shamed, possibly. I have never met a happy smoker. Most of them wish they never started it and haven't been successful in quitting. But I'm sure this doesn't apply to all smokers. I'm sure there are some that truly believe it is a great stress reliever and they don't care of the health consequences, financial burden it is, etc. At least, not yet. I imagine it's the same for drinkers; they drink for similar reasons, it's a financial burden, they might try to hide it, and they can't quit.
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Old 03-23-2014, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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I find dipping to be a supplement for smoking in the more rural areas of the nation.
Most younger men I know that dip think its makes them more masculine (kinda like driving jacked up trucks). Maybe it's a Southern thing, I don't know, but it's pathetic.
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Old 03-23-2014, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Nicotine is a hard drug, on par with Heroin and other opiates. I've smoked for over 20 years now. Today i smoke about 30 per day. I never hide it from anyone. If a girlfriend doesn't like my habit she can take a hike. Probably i will smoke til the day i die. I'm not ashamed. But not proud either.

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Old 03-23-2014, 01:23 PM
 
Location: CasaMo
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Nicotine is a hard drug, on par with Heroin and other opiates.
I don't see how nicotine and opiates could possibly put in the same category when you compare a smoker that hasn't had a cigarette for two days and going through withdraw versus a heroin addict that hasn't had a fix for two days going through withdraw. The smoker will be irritable and restless while the junkie is puking, having flu-like symptoms x100, while thinking he/she is losing their mind.
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Old 03-23-2014, 01:29 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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The smoker will be irritable and restless while the junkie is puking, having flu-like symptoms x100, while thinking he/she is losing their mind.
I don't know very many heroin addicts, but I know several smokers that go through SERIOUS withdrawals when they don't have cigarettes. I don't know if the chemical effect is the same for them, internally, but the physical manifestations I've witnessed seem very much alike.
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Old 03-23-2014, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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I don't see how nicotine and opiates could possibly put in the same category when you compare a smoker that hasn't had a cigarette for two days and going through withdraw versus a heroin addict that hasn't had a fix for two days going through withdraw. The smoker will be irritable and restless while the junkie is puking, having flu-like symptoms x100, while thinking he/she is losing their mind.
Well, i was without nicotine for a couple of days. Never again. I'd rather die. That's how strong the withdrawal symptoms were.

Alcohol is also a hard drug on par with Heroin.
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Old 03-23-2014, 02:04 PM
 
Location: CasaMo
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I don't know very many heroin addicts, but I know several smokers that go through SERIOUS withdrawals when they don't have cigarettes.
Of course they do, but I'm not going to compare it to opiate withdraw. I do know an opiate addict and his story is on no way similar to a nicotine user.

I never knew someone that smoked have it take over their life where it became the only thing they cared about, or neglected their kids because of their nicotine addiction, stole things for cigarette money, lose their home, savings, their marriage, completely transform who they are as a person, etc. All of that is true for junkies.
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Old 03-23-2014, 02:13 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Of course they do, but I'm not going to compare it to opiate withdraw. I do know an opiate addict and his story is on no way similar to a nicotine user.

I never knew someone that smoked have it take over their life where it became the only thing they cared about, or neglected their kids because of their nicotine addiction, stole things for cigarette money, lose their home, savings, their marriage, completely transform who they are as a person, etc. All of that is true for junkies.
Well, I won't argue with you on it. I know MANY people that have done all that for alcohol. It's not quite the same level of addiction for nicotine but I know a handful of nicotine addicts that have harmed family members because they went into rages when having withdrawals. Maybe that's not "as bad" as a heroin or alcohol addiction, but it's certainly harmful to the recipients of those beatings.
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