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Old 10-05-2011, 08:08 PM
 
Location: You know... That place
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Really? That's not my impression. I thought the majority were at home moms. Ok.
Working mom here. I was deeply insulted by many of the things that Ivory said. Not because I am a SAHM (I'm not), but because my mom was as well as many other very smart and strong women I know.

If what my mom did doesn't matter, then why would I be insulted by what she is saying? I am responding to some of her posts as a WM and sometimes I am replying as a child of a SAHM. I know how important a SAHM can be from my own experience as a child.

 
Old 10-05-2011, 08:13 PM
 
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Most of us have worked, and many of us will again. In fact, it's quite possible I'm the only one who does not plan a return to paid employment.
 
Old 10-05-2011, 08:14 PM
 
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Mimi- I also want to say that a lot of people on this thread are getting very worked up because she just isn't listening to any other points of view. At all. Many people on here have listened to what she is saying, and even agreed with her on some points, but the fact that she can't for even a second acknowledge that someone else has a point gets really frustrating. Sometimes you just want to open up someone's view on life just enough that they can possibly understand what someone else is trying to say.
 
Old 10-05-2011, 08:21 PM
 
Location: here
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I worked full time, then half time, am home now, and have been actively looking for work for a few months now.
 
Old 10-05-2011, 08:25 PM
 
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Worked full time in the military, off the last few years, want to work part time, but having difficulty finding a job that fits my schedule.
 
Old 10-05-2011, 08:40 PM
 
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Mimi- I also want to say that a lot of people on this thread are getting very worked up because she just isn't listening to any other points of view. At all. Many people on here have listened to what she is saying, and even agreed with her on some points, but the fact that she can't for even a second acknowledge that someone else has a point gets really frustrating. Sometimes you just want to open up someone's view on life just enough that they can possibly understand what someone else is trying to say.
Well said.
 
Old 10-06-2011, 05:44 AM
 
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Well, except when I said that I worked because I thought money was important. Lots of posters said that spending time with kids was more important than money. The implication is that I care more about money than spending time with my kids. I think that's kind of not-so-gentle, but it doesn't really bother me so much, because I do think that I'm making a responsible and reasonable choice.
For me, for most of the SAHPs I know, spending time with the kids is more important than money. It's kind of integral to the decision for most-- admittedly not all-- of us. There are times when that would not be the case, and at those times, people probably choose differently. Assuming that one starts at a baseline of "enough" (be it money or family time), it wouldn't matter except to the persons directly involved which way the overage goes. Were we not starting with a baseline of "enough", then judgment is probably not inappropriate-- but not knowing your family, I don't know that I could confidently that assumption about you. In absence of compelling evidence otherwise, I would assume the former.
 
Old 10-06-2011, 05:47 AM
 
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Working mom here.
Working mom for 15+ years. Now at home for nearly that, and homeschooler for several of those.

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Most of us have worked, and many of us will again. In fact, it's quite possible I'm the only one who does not plan a return to paid employment.
I won't rule it out entirely, but not this week, anyway. And I don't intend to resume my previous career.
 
Old 10-06-2011, 06:22 AM
 
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If I'm a vegetarian (by choice), it is implied that I don't like meat. If I'm talking to a carnivore and explain that I don't like meat, that carnivore is going to feel judged and put down. The vegetarian didn't set out to insult the carnivore, but did just by holding that opinion.
No. Saying you don't like meat is not an insult to all carnivores. Maybe a carnivore who is unsure about their decision to eat meat, and deep down inside wonders if he/she should be a vegetarian would be insulted. But even then they would have to be a very immature carnivore.
 
Old 10-06-2011, 06:28 AM
 
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No. Saying you don't like meat is not an insult to all carnivores. Maybe a carnivore who is unsure about their decision to eat meat, and deep down inside wonders if he/she should be a vegetarian would be insulted. But even then they would have to be a very immature carnivore.
Actually, if you had that discussion with a carnivore, and the carnivore comprehended your words enough to be insulted at all, he'd probably just rip you apart with his teeth and eat you.

FYI: Humans = OMNIvore, not carnivore. Wolf, kittycat, spider, alligator = carnivore.
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