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I need to vent! I just had the STUPIDEST argument with my 17 year old son. We had the radio on and the station was playing Christmas songs. I made the simple comment that "If you weren't Christian, and had to listen to these songs on the radio, wouldn't it bug you" -which he replied- this isn't Christmas music. There is nothing religious in Rudolph. I said- it is about rudolph pulling santa's sleigh on Christmas eve! and Santa comes from St. Nicholas! It is a Christmas song! It is only played during the Christmas season!! My original comment was not about rudolph- it was about all Christmas music. I tried to illustrate what I meant by saying that if I wanted to listen to country music but when I turned the radio on and there was some other religion's holiday music on I would not like it since I wanted to hear country music. So it led to him saying they don't play Christmas music in the big cities! I said that there are people of other religions everywhere not just in the city and these radio stations can be tuned in almost everywhere nowadays. Basically it boiled down to whether this is really Christmas music since they don't sing about God/Jesus and he felt it wouldn't bug anyone cuz it had a cool tune to it.
For heaven's sake- It wasn't meant to be such a literal comment that had to be proven/disproven by being so scrutinized!!!
Why is he sooooo argumentative and disagreeable??!!
I see his point, Rudolph includes none of the Christian aspects of the holiday. BUT were it not for the Christian traditions, the pagan ones would not likely have survived the test of time. So there would be no Rudolph.
Your comment wasn't simple. It gets to the heart of a VERY complicated issue: religious freedom.
Do you expect your son to always agree with you? I think that's what you should consider. I would be glad he is good at critical thinking and analysis.
It's a PAIN, for sure, but it's a skill that will serve him well.
It's a Santa song, not a religious Christmas song.
He's wrong about Christmas music not being played in big cities though.
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Originally Posted by Wmsn4Life
Your comment wasn't simple. It gets to the heart of a VERY complicated issue: religious freedom.
Do you expect your son to always agree with you? I think that's what you should consider. I would be glad he is good at critical thinking and analysis.
It's a PAIN, for sure, but it's a skill that will serve him well.
He's not really good at it yet, but he's practicing. That's a good thing.
It's clear he learned it from the OP. They were both right and wrong on some points.
"....then one foggy Christmas eve, Santa came to say..."
I'm still wondering how Rudolph got such a RED nose Personally think he was a brown noser for Santa, lol.
Many radio stations, small and large from DC to NY play such music around the holidays. Remember hearing these on the radio and tv specials since I was a kid.
Santa comes on Christmas eve, it has Christian origins. Santa is a religious symbol.
Anyway, I think my point is getting lost. All I had said to begin with was that some people may not like hearing the Christmas music when they turned on the country station- obviously they want to hear country! That is all. It wasn't meant to be a big argument and that is what upset me. I do believe some people who are not Christian may be annoyed at that and I'm not arguing about religious freedom- just a blatant statement that is probably true for some other folks out there. I find it ridiculous that he chose to make an arguement about it with weak points such as it not being a Christmas song when I was referrring to ALL holiday songs and then saying the big cities dont play it anyway and such.
He has been so hard to get along with lately in other ways also- I suppose that contributed to my being upset. Very negative and just picking on his siblings.
I think of Rudolph as a secular song same as White Christmas, Jingle Bells and Baby, It's Cold Outside, etc...
I was brought up in a pretty strict church going family. I'm pretty much agnostic nowdays - I still like to hear the old songs I grew up with , even those that are really religious like "What Child is this? " because they remind me of my childhood on a Midwest farm and Christmas Eve candlelight ceremonies....
But I can def. see your point - I don't listen to regular radio much, was every song a Christmas one?
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Personally think he was a brown noser for Santa, lol. 
