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Old 03-01-2015, 03:44 PM
 
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That article is referring to lower income children. When you call for universal full day at 4, are you limiting it to a certain economic class, or every child?
ever child . .like school - though exclusions if parents want to home school/private day care/etc.
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Old 03-01-2015, 03:46 PM
 
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What do you mean never recover?
well, for those who can't listen to a podcast.

never recover means, if you enter kindergarten without knowing the basics (letters, numbers, how to hold a book, etc) you will NEVER reach your peers. . .ever.

and/or the chances are VERY against you.
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Old 03-01-2015, 03:51 PM
 
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What do you mean never recover?
I'm wondering the same thing. I find that to be quite a broad statement.
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Old 03-01-2015, 03:54 PM
 
Location: New Yawk
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NYC is opening up UPK for every child, but wealthier families tend to send their kids to private pre-k programs, and been on months-long wait lists to get into those programs. So, it ends being being middle-to-low income families registering for UPK by default; typically that in-between of being too high income for Head Start, but too low income to afford private pre-k.
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That article is referring to lower income children. When you call for universal full day at 4, are you limiting it to a certain economic class, or every child?

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Old 03-01-2015, 03:57 PM
 
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well, for those who can't listen to a podcast.

never recover means, if you enter kindergarten without knowing the basics (letters, numbers, how to hold a book, etc) you will NEVER reach your peers. . .ever.

and/or the chances are VERY against you.
I don't believe that. My sons' teachers have told me about kids who've started kindergarten not knowing these things and they are all caught up with their peers by the middle to end of the school year.
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Old 03-01-2015, 04:17 PM
 
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I don't believe that. My sons' teachers have told me about kids who've started kindergarten not knowing these things and they are all caught up with their peers by the middle to end of the school year.
That is not true but neither is that they will never catch up. Usually by 3rd grade the gap is less, however, if these same kids that came to kindergarten do not get any support at home during subsequent years, they will have a very hard time catching up.
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Old 03-01-2015, 04:24 PM
 
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ever child . .like school - though exclusions if parents want to home school/private day care/etc.
Then I would be against it.

My kids did nursery school 3x's/week, for 2.5 hours. They started kindergarten at 5, but that age differed by several months, since they have Oct/Dec/June birthdays. They have been very successful in their academic lives, without sacrificing them to hours of extra schooling.

I believe young children need free play at least as much, if not more, than classrooms.
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Old 03-01-2015, 05:17 PM
 
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My district is half day only in Washington state. My brother's district is too and he lives in Ohio.
Washington is going to full day by 2017
State-Funded Full-Day Kindergarten

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Schools with the highest rates of poverty are to be funded first, and once a school receives funding, the school is eligible in future school years, regardless of changes in the school's percentage of students eligible for free and reduced-price lunch.
Ohio is one of the few states where not all districts offer full day and some charge tuition when they do. 80% of districts do offer full day K, but 20% do not. Ohio is one of only 12 states that can charge tuition for full day. In 2011, Ohio passed a law that eliminated the requirement that districts offer full day.

Ohio House Passes elimination of all-day kindergarten requirement - The Daily Record | Wayne & Holmes County, Ohio

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It also allows (but does not require) schools to offer all-day kindergarten and charge tuition for participants and eliminates a requirement that districts set aside funding for textbook and instructional materials on a per-pupil basis.

Republicans called those and other law changes in the bill necessary to lessen unfunded mandates on districts.
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Old 03-01-2015, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I'm on LI so if this goes through it will likely affect us in terms of cost (NY likes to take money from downstate to apply everywhere). I'm not for it because PRE-K is OPTIONAL and always should be - so why should we be forced to pay for everyone?

Our kids at 4 did do M-F 9-3 pre-school (at a significant cost btw) but it was only a couple hours of actual learning. I felt it was appropriate for their age.
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Old 03-01-2015, 07:28 PM
 
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I don't believe that. My sons' teachers have told me about kids who've started kindergarten not knowing these things and they are all caught up with their peers by the middle to end of the school year.
I don't believe it either. Everything seems to even out by third grade.

I think that full day, five day a week preschool is probably beneficial for certain groups of kids but I don't think it's necessary or even best for most kids. I would not consider it for my own children.
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