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Originally Posted by stan4
Just bc a particular method worked doesn't mean anything. It doesn't even mean it addressed the cause.
All at once you are saying people can't help it and that they can help it.
Nonsensical.
Drunks don't do normal but they are ALWAYS full of excuses. I have worked with them for almost 20 years.
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I just want to get my little two cents in here. AA does matter because those who chose that route and it worked for them, that's how many drunks are now "recovering alcoholics" and no longer endangering people's lives. In my brother's case, it did help him to address the cause. You can't make a blanket statement about the people who chose to turn their lives around.
My ex is a drunk and has used excuses all of his life. He used the fact that his mother abandoned him when he was five for everything. When we divorced, he refused to let my boys come live with me because of what his mother did to him and told our sons that I abandoned them, which I most certainly did not. Two years later he disowned them for the next 7 years. Now he fits into your category.
The fact that his dad and his brothers are all drunks scared the crap out of me because I was afraid that my sons would have that gene where they are more inclined to have an addictive personality.
I had a glass of wine at Thanksgiving and I bet that's the first time I've had a drink in 3 years. My ex's abuse of it made me hate it.
I like you stan from another forum we're on, but I do have to say we can agree to disagree on this one.