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Parents are responsible for their kids. Parents are supposed to teach kids how to behave in restaurants. No excuses. Quit trying to be your kids friend. It doesn't work. You end up looking like the fool because your kids are running the show.
Pffft! I'm not talking about going to a "Bar and Grill"; I'm talking about regular restaurants that serve alcohol at the table. I've been to restaurants where some adult is having a birthday (as evidenced by the table singing "happy birthday" to one of the group). They're loud, yada, yada. The last incident which I described above was at a "hipster" restaurant. In case you didn't read my post for comprehension, I said the waitress offered to move us w/o us even asking and said that the table had been asked a couple of times to quiet down. To say they were loud is an understatement; I've never heard a kid that loud, and I've worked in pediatrics, and given shots to kids.
These cards are insulting as they assume the kids are going to misbehave.
I "read your post for comprehension."
If YOUR kids are not going to be 'lil brats then why are YOU insulted?? Many kids DO misbehave. It's a fact. If they did not, there would be no need for such cards.
As others have said "this card is not for you. It is for all other parents who do not understand how to handle their children."
And seriously, you are complaining about RESTAURANTS AND PATRONS SINGING HAPPY BIRTHDAY!? This has been the norm at MOST restaurants that i know of for the past ~20 years.
I have never heard an adult make the noises that you describe. I would love to hear it because i doubt that it exists- it would hurt their own ears. Kids do it often for attention. Disabled adults/kids do it for various other reasons, including self stimulation.
But regardless, you have no idea how lucky you are that they told that party to be quiet.
As a waitress at multiple venues, i have thankfully NEVER had to do this to an adult party. I have needed to do it too many times with kids at a table and nearly without fail, these parents act like their kids should be excluded from basic rules of decorum "because they're kids."
I imagine these are the kids who grow up to be what you think of as obnoxious adult patrons. Something to ponder the next time people sing "Happy Birthday" too loud or that you deem otherwise too loud....
wild behavior by kids is unacceptable no matter where you go. If your kids are acting like fools leave them home. Nobody wants to deal with unruly kids if the parents are just going to sit there and be oblivious. I have a right to eat my meal in peace.
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to some people those may be a big night out- we shouldn't judge them for it. I do think that perhaps in these places you may find kids more prevalent and have to deal with that- but while kids may be a bit loud or boisterous it's no excuse to let them run wild and ruin others meals...if they can' handle sit down restaurant, then it's time to walk....that's also why we go out @ 5pm or earlier with the little one, in case our angel loses it, i don't want to ruin other people's night.
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do they?
I think they arena warning/reminder not to misbehave.
If YOUR kids are not going to be 'lil brats then why are YOU insulted?? Many kids DO misbehave. It's a fact. If they did not, there would be no need for such cards.
As others have said "this card is not for you. It is for all other parents who do not understand how to handle their children."
And seriously, you are complaining about RESTAURANTS AND PATRONS SINGING HAPPY BIRTHDAY!? This has been the norm at MOST restaurants that i know of for the past ~20 years.
I have never heard an adult make the noises that you describe. I would love to hear it because i doubt that it exists- it would hurt their own ears. Kids do it often for attention. Disabled adults/kids do it for various other reasons, including self stimulation.
But regardless, you have no idea how lucky you are that they told that party to be quiet.
As a waitress at multiple venues, i have thankfully NEVER had to do this to an adult party. I have needed to do it too many times with kids at a table and nearly without fail, these parents act like their kids should be excluded from basic rules of decorum "because they're kids."
I imagine these are the kids who grow up to be what you think of as obnoxious adult patrons. Something to ponder the next time people sing "Happy Birthday" too loud or that you deem otherwise too loud....
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You clearly did NOT read for comprehension if you think I was complaining about the group singing. "Happy Birthday". I was describing a drunken group of loud adults celebrating a birthday. It's funny how a bunch of drunks don't think they are being obnoxious.
No! Because, despite our cry of perfect children!, we are all that parent. We have drug our kid out of establishment with them kicking and screaming. Or into the bathroom. Or bribed them with dessert or a toy. No parent, no matter how they protests has never been in that spot.
THAT is what you read? I fear there is no getting past the defensive shield here, folks.
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No matter the situation, 1 out of 20 people judge us. We feel the glares on the backs of our neck. No matter how hard we are trying.
Actually the topic is acceptable behavior of the kids in a restaurant. The topic is effectively teaching kids to do that or having the right to escort the disruptive patrons out the door. If you allow your children to disrupt other patrons at restaurants, and thus feel judged, that is on you.
You clearly did NOT read for comprehension if you think I was complaining about the group singing. "Happy Birthday". I was describing a drunken group of loud adults celebrating a birthday. It's funny how a bunch of drunks don't think they are being obnoxious.
It is interesting that drunken patrons come up as counterpoint to how something else that is obnoxious is acceptable. I have seen far fewer drunken patrons (cuz I am old and go to dinner too early, maybe?). But on those occasions that I have, they have been escorted from the premises. Precisely because they ARE disruptive to other patrons and don't have special oh my johnny is so sweet status in our society.
We had the problem of screaming babies disturbing our meal out at a local restaurant just last night However, by an amazing stroke of luck, my wife and I live in Houston, where this restaurant is located. Time to make a consolation reservation.
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I can't believe this thread is still going on and that some ( young parents ) see no problem with children that misbehave. None of us are pointing fingers at you nor accusing you of being bad parents. My MIL, bless her soul, had a actual child leash for my husband when he was young because he kept running off in stores - today she'd be reported for child abuse. As a parent of young children - I was as critical of their behavior as well as those around us.
It seems you think your rights and your child's rights trump the rest of ours - wrong. Children will be children and 99.9% of us on this board know this - what we take exception to is the fact that some parents refuse to educate and discipline their children when they misbehave. I have more fun playing peek a boo with a small child to keep him occupied in his high chair so his parents can eat. Some of their antics brings back fond memories of when my kids were young - but if a child is being really disruptive - they should be removed whether it's because they are too loud or running around and unsupervised.
God I hate these freaking "children are devils spawn" threads. I wish they would just stop popping up in the parenting section already.
P.s. X-ray, leashes are 100% legal for kids and people use them all the time. I had one for my runner.
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This has been the norm at MOST restaurants that i know of for the past ~20 years. 
However, by an amazing stroke of luck, my wife and I live in Houston, where this restaurant is located. Time to make a consolation reservation.
