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Old 11-15-2009, 10:37 AM
 
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I think that areas where there is diversity, a mixture of races and cultures even if one predominates, you get less discrimination. Its when there's 90 to 95% one race or ethnicity that you find problems against the minority. And even then its a VERY SMALL minority within that majority that seek out conflict. Just keeping things in perspective.

 
Old 11-15-2009, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Harrisburg
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Areas that are sparsely populated tend to be less diverse, and have fewer employment opportunities.

Hate groups, cults, kooks of all kinds, tend to gravitate to these areas because land is cheap, the cost of living is low, there is little to no police presence. If a bunch of bigoted kooks builds a compound in a county with a small population, that says nothing about the residents themselves. Someone sold them the land, and that is not illegal. I doubt the buyer would say 'we are going to build a racialist compound and have a cross lighting every week' at the closing.

These groups rely on donations to buy property and spread their propaganda, so the poverty of the local economy does not deter them.
 
Old 11-15-2009, 01:56 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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In reality fringe groups are present everywhere, no matter the state. I've been gone from that part of PA for almost 30 years and there were some present then.
 
Old 11-15-2009, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Hooterville PA
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In Potter county, you wouldn't even have to put up a fence to keep someone out.

There are very few colored people up there if any at all due to the fact that there is nothing for them up there. No rap music stations on the radio, no malls to go shopping in, no place to cruise with your low rider cars or spinners on the wheels.

The preferred mode of transportation is a Chevy, Ford or Dodge 4 wheel drive truck with about 6 inches of lift with 38 inch tires and dual exhaust. Or one of those little Toyota or Honda cars that gets 50 miles to the gallon.

Most of the women up there has summer teeth, some are over here and some are over there and they are just happy to see paved roads.

As far as land being cheap, it all depends on what you consider being cheap.

The family that owned PA Pressed Metals had us build them a new cabin with a trout hatchery in the basement and 3 ponds around the cabin and a 6,000 gallon tank buried underground to maintain the flow of water into the basement. They had like 200 - 300 acres and I would guess that it sold for $500 a acre 20 years ago.

Probably $3000 a acre today

The cabin cost $175,000 just for the shell of the house we put up.
 
Old 11-16-2009, 01:04 PM
 
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In Potter county, you wouldn't even have to put up a fence to keep someone out.

There are very few colored people up there if any at all due to the fact that there is nothing for them up there. No rap music stations on the radio, no malls to go shopping in, no place to cruise with your low rider cars or spinners on the wheels.
Enough said...
 
Old 06-15-2010, 04:42 AM
 
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I agree so much with your statment, thank you for being so truthful, I my self is a black american who witness the same thing and think it is stupid to be narrow minded. I live now in Harrisburg, Pa and regret it the day i came i am a nurse who witness racism in several nursing home. however i do not know if bethlehem, Pa is better than Harrisburg can you tell me if you think bethlehem, Pa is better for a black family to live. I am thinking it could be since it is closer to the city.
 
Old 06-15-2010, 06:19 AM
 
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I agree so much with your statment, thank you for being so truthful, I my self is a black american who witness the same thing and think it is stupid to be narrow minded. I live now in Harrisburg, Pa and regret it the day i came i am a nurse who witness racism in several nursing home. however i do not know if bethlehem, Pa is better than Harrisburg can you tell me if you think bethlehem, Pa is better for a black family to live. I am thinking it could be since it is closer to the city.
Not sure what you mean by "closer to the city". Bethlehem is a city. Do you mean Philadelphia or NYC? Perhaps someone will post who has lived in both Bethlehem and Harrisburg.
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Old 08-11-2011, 08:15 PM
 
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Default History's Reality

The truth is, that in this country many whites do not want to accept responsibility for their crimes against Africans, and others who are of color. Going back and forth on these forums makes no sense at times. For those who are ready for the truth, Google makes a great tool to research history. And for those whites who are still plagued with the disease of bigotry, there is a difference between racism and bitterness and resentment. We didn't come here to the west, we were forced and taken from our motherland, as we were also forced to watch our women raped by the Angelo Saxon man, and forced to witness our children scream as we were being taken away. That in itself is cruelty against another human being, then again those committing that particular crime against humanity may have not been human. Take a good look at the 60's. White's don't regret their hateful ways, they regret only when they are caught being worse than their accusation against Blacks and others of color. Yet, they spend billions on designing tanning formulas so the masses of whites can spend their summers trying to get the color they so much show hatred for. We have been bred to deal with the disease of bitterness and resentment because of what was done to us. So we are not like you and racsist, we are angry and bitter and resentful of...well come on you know. My cousin did two tours in Iraq, and still goes through racism where he and his family lives. History is the greatest truth, if you are ready to embrace the TRUTH. Not "His-Story". Anglo Saxons hated us for no reason, and today many whites all over blame us for the conditions of our neighborhood and for crimes of all sorts. Yet they are not ready to accept that the mistreatment of our people for so many hundreds of years causes deep rooted issues that get passed down psychologically. Most whites treat dogs and other animals with greater regard than they have ever done us. My daughter is a federal officer with Homeland security and married a white man from Oregon, and I have to say I am so grateful that he is not one of those whites. He has shared so many sad stories of racism as he sees it everyday as a Federal Agent with homeland security.


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Old 08-12-2011, 06:17 AM
 
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For those whites who need a history lesson from another white go to thise link. For those who embrace TRUTH and A Love for History enjoy. A White Man's Journey Into Black History
 
Old 08-16-2011, 02:25 PM
 
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For those whites who need a history lesson from another white go to thise link. For those who embrace TRUTH and A Love for History enjoy. A White Man's Journey Into Black History
I swear I could simply scream each time I hear somebody regardless of color talk about white people and how racist they are.

As a white American male, it’s obvious that the racism I’ve received was from blacks. I put up with it in the Marine Corps, and later in life when my factory closed, I had to move to one of the poorer sections of Harrisburg that was predominately black. A friend that bought an old crack house needed help fixing it up. He was one of those, “Oh I love all people regardless of color. I embrace the blacks, and I’ll get along. I’ll be the poster child for the end of racism in white America.” The naïve fool believed that only white people were racist. Both he and I were the subject of open racism. Since he was smaller and less intimidating than I am, he caught it from individual blacks. I on the other hand only caught it from large groups of young black men sitting on the porch drinking a 40 and smoking a blundt.

The blacks dealt out more racism than I’ve ever seen white people do, and I’ve seen plenty of white people dole out racism when there was one lone black man in the bar/restaurant. The racism I received in Harrisburg went both for and against my favor. Being rather tall with light eyes and hair, legions of young black women threw themselves at me. Many blatantly stated they wouldn’t date a black man, that they had white boy fantasies, or they just simply marveled at my straight light hair, eyes, and the like. I’ve watched scores of blacks dole out racism against Hispanics to a degree much worse than I’ve seen against whites.

Now all one has to do is substitute my white arse for a black man or your pick, and reverse the color of the population, and we have the same problem.

There’s a simple formula: Whenever people are different, there will be discrimination and bigotry. I don’t care if it’s religion, race, sex, age, Steelers versus Eagles, Ford versus Chevy, there will be rude comments to murder and everything in between. It’s called human nature. It has nothing to do with education or intelligence. A few of the most intelligent people I have been acquainted with were out right borderline Nazis. Conversely, some of the least educated and intelligent people I’ve known didn’t seem to care what race other people were.

Racism in the United States: For those of you that think you’re in some sort of Utopia, I have to ask you to check yourself. Do you live in a very rich sparsely populated affluent neighborhood? Are there equal numbers of blacks, whites, Hispanics, and toss in scores of people from other areas of the globe? In this place, you all seem to get along I guess. I’d really love to see that place.

In all the states, cities, and towns where I visited. There has been one common practice that I’ve noticed. People practice voluntary segregation based on color and social status. It’s been my observation that never once did this have anything to do with what color the person was. Meaning, blacks wanted to live with blacks, whites with whites, etc and the rich and poor wanted to stay in their own areas.

How’s this for a news flash. Throughout your life, you’re going to be discriminated against because you’re not tall, attractive, white, black, Catholic, etc etc etc. It’s a fact of life and deal with it.

To the person I've quoted: I will never learn about black history. Why? Because I'm sick of having 10% of the population shove it down my throat. When I was young, well before black history month etc., I dabled into black history becasue I wanted to. It's called based on attraction. You turn people off by forcing them to learn about another culture.

I don’t see all the hype to learn about Hispanics. Where's Hispanic history month? Where are official federal government holidays for Hispanic culture? Hispanics run from white to black and everything in between. Moreover, they represent a much larger faction of our society. Their recorded culture is far more diverse and the like than anything black America has to offer, yet why am I not being forced to hear about Hispanics? Simple, for the most part, Hispanics don’t sit around crying about what the white man’s done to them. The wheel that makes the most noise gets the grease.

Yea, it’s a real sore topic. I’m sick of white people bashing. It’s time for the black man to step up and accept his role in the game. I don’t care that they were brought here as slaves. That’s in the past, and it has absolutely nothing to do with any of us here today.
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