Dear Northwest PA... (Penn: college, live in, law)

[Amerikrainian]

By the way, in case somebody reads my post differently than it was meant, please understand that I did not write it with any arrogance or ill will. I meant it to be direct but not mean or snobby.

[sirron]

Originally Posted by RomaniGypsy

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... because I'm not an especially observant guy.


After all, the roads were twisty and turny...,

You understand why I couldn't let this go after seeing these two sentences, yes?

Holy cow, what a rant; all because you should have slowed down considerably and possibly even stopped at the scene of an obvious accident, but didn't, and were (Horrors!) reprimanded.

Can't feel your pain here.

[TechieTransplant]

Originally Posted by RomaniGypsy

...WHY HAVE YOU CHANGED SO MUCH?!?!

Dear Wacko..........

The entire world has changed. Get over it.

[RomaniGypsy]

Originally Posted by Amerikrainian

I know what "Come Lord Jesus" means; I am a Christian. But I don't go on to forums and post my gripes with everyone who I think has wronged me and then invoke the name of Jesus. If you're so focused on Jesus that you want to mention Him at the end of a post like that, maybe instead you should have just prayed to Him in the first place and for those people who you think wronged you, instead of aiming your grievances into cyberspace. On the other hand, if I didn't know about Jesus, I would hardly be won over by your sour disposition and lack of apparent grace and peace which He gives.

I wasn't trying to turn this into a study of Christian doctrine, but since you pushed the issue, there it is.

Hopefully these points make sense to you. If not, you'll have to excuse me for moving on to something more productive.

Even Jesus got mad, buddy. And when He did, He was much more "violent" with his reaction than I'm being, by posting something online. John 2:13-16.

Originally Posted by sirron

You understand why I couldn't let this go after seeing these two sentences, yes?

No. One doesn't have to be observant to notice when roads are twisty and turny. That's right in your face.

Originally Posted by sirron

Holy cow, what a rant; all because you should have slowed down considerably and possibly even stopped at the scene of an obvious accident, but didn't, and were (Horrors!) reprimanded.

I did slow down significantly. Evidently you didn't read my entire "rant". Given that there is no obvious posting, sign, etc. stating how slow is "slow enough", those dudes had no right to stop me and waste my valuable time by, as you put it, reprimanding me. I have better things to do with my life than waste it listening to the blathering of two people who can't remember the last time they were happy with their lives.

Originally Posted by scottrpriester

Dear Wacko..........

The entire world has changed. Get over it.

I guess that someone with a brain and a clue would appear as a wacko to someone who lacks both. Guilty as charged.

The responses I've gotten to this thread just back up my assertions.

[North Beach Person]

As far as stopping you goes many of the volunteer fire departments have fire police units with limited police powers at an incident. That may be who stopped you and since it was contingent with the accident they had every right to do so. Many of those officers are sworn police officers in their day to day lives.

[TechieTransplant]

Originally Posted by RomaniGypsy

I guess that someone with a brain and a clue would appear as a wacko to someone who lacks both. Guilty as charged.

Yes you are.

[RomaniGypsy]

Originally Posted by North Beach Person

As far as stopping you goes many of the volunteer fire departments have fire police units with limited police powers at an incident. That may be who stopped you and since it was contingent with the accident they had every right to do so. Many of those officers are sworn police officers in their day to day lives.

Perhaps, but the more ornery of the two guys had a card clipped to his vest which identified him as an employee of the Zippo factory in Bradford. Makes me think he isn't a police officer in his daily life.

[North Beach Person]

Originally Posted by RomaniGypsy

Perhaps, but the more ornery of the two guys had a card clipped to his vest which identified him as an employee of the Zippo factory in Bradford. Makes me think he isn't a police officer in his daily life.

You ignored the part about the limited police powers. I threw in the jobs of some of them as reference, not as an "all".

[thecoalman]

Originally Posted by RomaniGypsy

Given that there is no obvious posting, sign, etc. stating how slow is "slow enough", those dudes had no right to stop me and waste my valuable time by, as you put it, reprimanding me. I have better things to do with my life than waste it listening to the blathering of two people who can't remember the last time they were happy with their lives.

In other words the slight inconvenience to yourself is more important than the lives of the people directing traffic in an emergency situation. After some research they most certainly have the right to stop you besides the fact it should just be common courtesy to do so. Perhaps next time you won't be so lucky and kill someone. Your ignorance is astounding.

http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/06...01/s101.2.html

§ 101.2. Persons authorized to direct traffic.

The following persons are authorized to direct, control or regulate traffic:

(1) Traffic control persons on utility, maintenance or construction projects.

(2) Adult school crossing guards for assisting school children across busy or hazardous highways.

(3) Railroad crossing guards at railroad grade crossings, for purposes of stopping vehicular traffic to permit the safe passage of trains.

(4) Civil defense, National Guard and military police while performing their regular duties or during National or local emergencies.

(5) Personnel of emergency organizations such as fire departments, hospitals, river rescue associations, ambulance associations and personnel of emergency vehicles designated by the State Police under 75 Pa.C.S. § 6106 (relating to designation of emergency vehicles by the Pennsylvania police) while performing their duties.

(6) Highway service vehicle personnel of tow trucks and road service vehicles.

(7) Park Maintenance Supervisors, Park Rangers I and Environmental Education Specialists of the Department of Environmental Resources, Bureau of State Parks, who have completed the Department of Environmental Resources’ Traffic Control Training Course, while performing their official duties.

§3102. Obedience to authorized persons directing traffic.
No person shall willfully fail or refuse to comply with any lawful order
or direction of any uniformed police officer, sheriff or constable or, in an
emergency, a railroad or street railway police officer; or any appropriately
attired person, including an agent or employee of the funeral director during
a funeral, authorized to direct, control or regulate traffic or an employee
who has been trained in traffic control by a licensed and insured private
security company and who is acting in the scope of employment.

In other words you broke the law by disobeying a lawful direction given to you by an emergency vehicle operator.

[RomaniGypsy]

Originally Posted by thecoalman

In other words the slight inconvenience to yourself is more important than the lives of the people directing traffic in an emergency situation. After some research they most certainly have the right to stop you besides the fact it should just be common courtesy to do so. Perhaps next time you won't be so lucky and kill someone. Your ignorance is astounding.

I wasn't about to kill anyone. Nobody dies from the wind draft caused by a vehicle passing at 25 mph. And on top of that, I wasn't about to complain about having to slow down to get around an emergency situation. That happens all the time. Besides, you must've overlooked the part about how there was a hill very close by such that if I were in "the wrong lane" at just the right time when another vehicle crested that hill at 55 mph, it certainly would've caused a nasty accident. It was more than inconvenience - it was personal safety for myself and my wife.

Originally Posted by thecoalman

In other words you broke the law by disobeying a lawful direction given to you by an emergency vehicle operator.

Wrong again. I slowed down when they told me to slow down (actually BEFORE they motioned for me to slow down, as I saw the stopped vehicle lights before the people saw me) and I stopped when they told me to stop.

*sigh*