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View Poll Results: Do you agree or disagree with smoking ban?
I fully agree with the ban. 21 44.68%
I fully disagree with the ban. 16 34.04%
I somewhat agree but the ban is too lenient. 6 12.77%
I somewhat agree but the ban is too harsh. 4 8.51%
Neutral 0 0%
Voters: 47. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-25-2008, 03:29 AM
 
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If you are non-PA resident I kindly ask that you refrain from voting.

There's two ongoing threads, a short one here in the Pennsylvania forum and a much longer one in the Northeastern Pennsylvania forum currently at 23 pages discussing the pros and cons of the smoking ban to go into effect in Pennsylvania shortly. I'll suggest leaving the discussion out of this thread and make your thoughts know in the others. Neither is a poll which is why I'm starting this one.

Smoking Ban bill as been passed

Pennsylvania gets a Smoking Ban

Here is the basics of the bill:

The Clean Indoor Air Act indicates no person shall carry a lighted cigar, cigarette, pipe or other lighted smoking device in the any of the following locations:

• All enclosed public places where the public is invited including and not limited to:
  • educational facilities
  • health care related facilities
  • mass transportation (train, subway, bus, chartered bus, plane, taxicab, limousine)
  • train station, subway station, bus station
  • public facility
  • sports or recreational facility
  • theater or performance establishment
• Restaurants
• Nightclubs
• Public meetings
• Workplaces (indoor area serving place of employment, occupation, business, trade, craft, professional or volunteer activity)

The law exempts the following places, permitting smoking in:

• Private residence or vehicle, unless they are being used for child care, adult day care or services related to the care of children and youth in State or county custody
• 25% of the total number of sleeping quarters available for rent in a single lodging establishments
• Full service truck stop (with shower facilities for fee)
• Workplaces of any manufacturer, importer, wholesaler of tobacco products, including lighters, of any tobacco leaf dealer or processor and all tobacco storage facilities
• Separate enclosed room or designated smoking rooms in a residential adult care facility, community mental health care facility, drug and alcohol facility, or other residential health care facilities and day treatment programs
• Private Clubs who have been in existence for 10 or more years, including volunteer ambulance, fire and rescue companies. A vote must be taken by the officers of the club.
• Non-profit fundraisers must be held by a non-profit or charitable organization in a place separate from other public areas, which does not permit anyone under 18 years and food and beverage must be served. One event per year limit exists.
• Tobacco Promotion Events where at least 75% of products displayed or distributed are tobacco or tobacco related products. Limited to six days of promotional events a year.
• Cigar Bar- 2 types- (must provide supporting documentation)
  • grandfather current cigar bars physically connected by a door, passageway, or other opening and adjacent to a tobacco shop.
  • other establishments that have a total annual sale of tobacco products of at least 15% ofcombined gross sales
• Bars (must provide supporting documentation)
  • annual sales of food sold is equal to or less than 20% of combined gross sales
  • does not permit individuals under 18 years of age
  • grandfathers enclosed areas which are physically connected or directly adjacent and separate from an eating area, has separate ventilation, and a separate outside entrance
• Casinos-25% of the gaming floor or if proof of a hardship, within 90 days of implementation or of an opening date, can be proven then 50% of gaming can have smoking permitted
• Wholesale or retail tobacco shop with tobacco sales comprising 50% or more of gross sales annually (must provide supporting documentation)
• Outdoor sports, recreational facility, theater or performance establishment
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Old 06-25-2008, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Scranton
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Looks like 4-2 in favor of the current ban or a stronger ban, so far.
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Old 06-25-2008, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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I approve of the ban. I dread heading to my favorite local establishments only to leave smelling like an ashtray due to the inability of smokers to keep their odorous exhaust to themselves.
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Old 06-25-2008, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Don't worry, I won't vote! I will say, PA's "ban" is less strict than CO's, which basically bans all smoking in business establishments except the casions and the smoking lounge at Denver International Airport.
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Old 06-25-2008, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Scranton
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Well, it looks like more people support a ban than oppose it.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it!
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Old 06-25-2008, 01:36 PM
 
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In favor of the ban....
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Old 06-25-2008, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Prunetucky-on-the-slough
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My apologies. Remove one from the "I fully agree.." I do not yet live in PA.
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Old 06-25-2008, 05:07 PM
 
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Well, it looks like more people support a ban than oppose it.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it!
Well I wouldn't consider it a complete victory the legislation leaves some freedoms intact for some venues which is what most people are favoring.
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Old 06-28-2008, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Sunshine N'Blue Skies
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Me too, very much in favor of the ban........just for the people I love and their health reasons
Young and Old reasons, all worthy of the banning.....
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Old 06-28-2008, 10:11 PM
 
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I'm sure glad we have the ban in Philly.
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