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Old 01-30-2008, 03:54 PM
 
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We've had a tripling of the value of our home up until 2 years and we've given back 20 percent of that increase. Even if home prices in our area dropped by a third off the top, I would consider that a normal correction rather than deflation. We'll have had a 100 percent increase in 10 years which is nearly twice as much as the historical average of 4 percent a year.
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Old 01-30-2008, 05:12 PM
 
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Many bank checking and savings accounts pay .20 or less, which makes those 3.5 rates seem downright giddy.

Stocks are down.
Bonds are down.
Money market rates are down.
Savings rates are down.

There is virtually nowhere savers can stay ahead of inflation... and save for retirement. Exit social security, and that will be the definition of screwed.

or privatize it and the idiots will be screwed while intelligent responsible people
will benefit
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Old 01-30-2008, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Palm Beach Gardens, Fla
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...or you can invest in gold. Does anyone here seriously do that? I'm thinking about it but I don't know where to begin.
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Old 01-30-2008, 06:34 PM
 
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I have been invested in gold and mining stocks since 2004. I would suggest a gold mutual fund or ETF to get started, then later, if you wanted, you could build a basket of select stocks.

Gold has skyrocketed, but many believe it still has room to run. Gold and global currencies are a hedge against a declining dollar, so if you believe the dollar has a downside bias, they're worth a look. Good luck!
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Old 01-30-2008, 06:42 PM
 
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or privatize it and the idiots will be screwed while intelligent responsible people
will benefit
I'm totally with you on this!
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Old 01-30-2008, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Heartland Florida
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Inflation is over 10% This lowering of interest rates is the way they will destroy the last remaining middle class wealth. I yearn for the 80's double-digit interest rates!!
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Old 01-30-2008, 07:27 PM
 
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Interesting side effect of the Fed lowering the funds rate.

Did anyone else's savings rate drop? Just curious.

We are writing to inform you that based on the recent drop by the Federal Reserve, HSBC Direct has adjusted your Online Savings Account rate to 3.80% APY*. At 8x the national savings average**, you are still earning one of America’s highest savings rates.

HSBC Direct will continue to evaluate and respond to market changes so we can provide you with competitive rates. And if your rate changes, whether up or down, we are committed to always letting you know.

You can feel confident knowing your savings are with HSBC Direct. We’re part of HSBC Group, one of the largest financial institutions in the world, and have over 140 years of experience helping customers manage their savings.

We sincerely appreciate you saving with HSBC Direct.

It was 4.25....drat.
I'm still earning 4.29% through paypal.com money market funds.. and I can remove it any time I want..
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Old 01-30-2008, 08:21 PM
 
Location: San Jose, CA
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E*Trade is giving me 4.4% down from 5.05% last week, but with the increasing spread between my loans and savings there is less incentive to keep money in savings, and start paying down loans faster, admittedly I still need some just in case, but still.

Interestingly I have not seen student loan interest rates or car loan interest rates or personal loan interest rates drop. So they must be increasing their profit margins on these. I'm going to refinance my car loan with a credit union out East I have and account with if I can, the interest rate is only 3.75% there.
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Old 01-31-2008, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Where the sun likes to shine!!
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Inflation is over 10% This lowering of interest rates is the way they will destroy the last remaining middle class wealth. I yearn for the 80's double-digit interest rates!!
Double-digit interest rates would be awesome. Bring it on. Unfortunately there's an 86% chance that they are going to lower the intersst rate 50 basis points in March.(as of 5 minutes ago).

Screwed again. Why aren't the fixed income people up in arms?
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Old 02-11-2008, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Ermm..just in case anyone has missed this...

As the Fed lowers interest rates...you make less money on your savings.

Which screws people who save...but really helps that housing market. I guess.

To save the housing market - I am now losing money.

Thanks a lot.
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