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Old 09-26-2019, 10:04 AM
 
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Yeah, so my point is maybe not a good one, but $350k - even in the priciest metro - is not middle class. Uh uh. No way. You are basically rich at that income level. Even if your house is worth (boo hoo) $1.8 million.
It all depends on your location, your background and your expectations. For some 350 seems like a number out there while for others it is not enough.
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Old 09-26-2019, 10:23 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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It all depends on your location, your background and your expectations. For some 350 seems like a number out there while for others it is not enough.
The bottom line is that $350k/year is higher than what 98% of American households make per year.

And the United States is one of the richest countries in the world.
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Old 09-26-2019, 10:54 AM
 
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The bottom line is that $350k/year is higher than what 98% of American households make per year.

And the United States is one of the richest countries in the world.
According to some statistics:>)
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Old 09-26-2019, 11:08 AM
 
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It all depends on your location, your background and your expectations. For some 350 seems like a number out there while for others it is not enough.
Sure....and you can say the same thing for 1 million dollars. For some 1 million seems like a number out there while for others it is not enough. I can spend 1 million dollars per year, hell I could spend 5 million. Does that mean that it's not enough? I've always wanted a nice 55 ft yacht, I'd actually prefer two boats, a 55 ft yacht that I keep in a marina in Fort Lauderdale and a 40 ft powerboat that I keep on a lake near my house. I'd clearly need 3 houses at that point as well, one in the area I'm currently in, one at the lake and one down in Fort Lauderdale.
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Old 09-26-2019, 11:23 AM
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For people who made 350k annually isn’t that much for them but sounds a lot for those who not there, yet.
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Old 09-26-2019, 11:51 AM
 
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For people who made 350k annually isn’t that much for them but sounds a lot for those who not there, yet.
In real dollar terms, the vast majority of people will not get there in their lifetimes.

Only a small number of people will have the equivalent qualifications and market value of a neurosurgeon.
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Old 09-26-2019, 12:13 PM
 
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In real dollar terms, the vast majority of people will not get there in their lifetimes.

Only a small number of people will have the equivalent qualifications and market value of a neurosurgeon.
Neuro working for 350 has enough law suits to make him unemployable:>)

Plenty of blue collar with two incomes make it there, plenty of non-academic one and two income families make it there.
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Old 09-26-2019, 12:16 PM
 
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Plenty of blue collar with two incomes make it there, plenty of non-academic one and two income families make it there.
“Plenty” is subjective, but it is not more than 2-3% of US households. 97% of US households actually make less than $250,000 a year according to stats that I’ve seen.

You can’t argue the facts.
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Old 09-26-2019, 12:48 PM
 
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“Plenty” is subjective, but it is not more than 2-3% of US households. 97% of US households actually make less than $250,000 a year according to stats that I’ve seen.

You can’t argue the facts.
What they mean is plenty of the people in their social circle make it there.


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Neuro working for 350 has enough law suits to make him unemployable:>)

Plenty of blue collar with two incomes make it there, plenty of non-academic one and two income families make it there.
I find it hard to believe that plenty of blue collar 2 income household make it to $350k/yr HH income. What common blue-collar jobs pay $175k+/yr other than the people that own the blue-collar businesses?

Even the examples from Sam's blog that shows a transit janitor in the Bay making $234k conveniently leaves out the fact that he works 17/day 7 days a week and almost all of that comes from over time that he makes. Surely, not something just anyone can replicate or is even capable of replicating.
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Old 09-26-2019, 01:24 PM
 
Location: The Triad
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The bottom line is that $350k/year is higher than what 98% of ...
The more critical distinction is EARNED income vs that from investments...
especially so when it was someone else altogether who earned that portfolio.
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