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Old 11-16-2023, 05:35 AM
 
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Define "taxes". Some of those deductions will benefit YOU eventually! Ever heard of SS and Medicare OP?
"May" would be the word not "will." Not everyone will live long enough to collect either or long enough where they come out ahead of the game.
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Old 11-16-2023, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Williamsburg VA
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My net pay is 56.48% of my gross pay.
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Old 11-16-2023, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Sunnybrook Farm
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Of course I know; I can look at my pay stub and see it.

The expenditures after that, well, we don't keep careful records, but we know to keep them down, and the prime mantra is AVOID FIXED COSTS. That means no subscriptions to streaming services, etc.; avoiding products whose function depends on a subscription (Peloton, anyone?) and so on.
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Old 11-16-2023, 09:41 AM
 
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A few times a year I run the w4 withholding calculator from the IRS so I have a pretty good grasp of where the money goes. I've done a pretty good job and have received <$100 federal returns the last few years. This year I'll be paying a few thousand as I sold a house I co-owned with my brother. It wasn't my primary residence so proceeds will be taxable.
What you get back is the refund. The return is all the forms filed (1040, etc.).
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Old 11-16-2023, 09:44 AM
 
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You get 69% of your gross?

Wait until you're a business owner....

You'll be lucky to see 35% take-home.
What is it about being a business owner that would result in 35% take-home (or less)?
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Old 11-16-2023, 09:50 AM
 
Location: southwestern PA
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Do you know where your chunk of paycheck go?

Of course, as it is spelled out on every paystub.
How is it that you are just noticing the deductions now?
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Old 11-16-2023, 09:55 AM
 
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Of course, as it is spelled out on every paystub.
How is it that you are just noticing the deductions now?

Ditto that question - how or why would anyone work a "real" job with a real check and not already know these things?
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Old 11-16-2023, 10:53 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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What you get back is the refund. The return is all the forms filed (1040, etc.).
I prefer no to lend the government my money interest free, so I always owe several hundred or a thousand in April. A tax refund is a savings account with no interest. At least in the credit union I get .5% interest.

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What is it about being a business owner that would result in 35% take-home (or less)?
When I bought my business in 1993 the seller was getting 35% take-home profit. At the peak I managed to get it up to 40%. That's the way it is with a small business in a competitive environment, when you have to pay commercial rent, employees, insurance, utilities B & O tax, and the rest, but have to keep prices reasonable.
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Old 11-16-2023, 12:51 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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A potential benefit down the road doesn’t change what taxes are
No, it doesn't, but viewing some of those payroll "taxes" as something you pour down a hole and never see again isn't really accurate. Viewing them less as a tax and more like a savings account or investment is.
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Old 11-16-2023, 12:53 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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"May" would be the word not "will." Not everyone will live long enough to collect either or long enough where they come out ahead of the game.
Agree. That would have been a better word. Call me an optimist!
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