04-26-2011, 07:04 PM
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Is this new development really within walking distance to downtown Media? How many homes are currently built? Are the lots flat or hilly? How close are the elementary/middle schools to the neighborhood? And do these schools have a good reputation? Any information would be appreciated! Thanks!
04-27-2011, 06:51 AM
Location: New York City
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I live minutes from there and i visit the homes all the time! They are building 50 homes, over 30 have sold since september, they are in very high demand. Pricing begins in the mid 600k range. The lots are on average half an acre, some seem crammed, some are spaced out. The model home is ready to open in the coming weeks to show for potential buyers. There are 6 other homes currently under contruction, and the foundations for 4 others are underway. Probably about 2/3 of the homes are on a slight slope. The neighborhood has a small downhill stretch throughout, but your not on the side of a cliff or anything. Most will probably offer a walkout basement. This neighborhood is literally 5 minutes from downtown media, and minutes from all major roadways, train stations and shopping. The homes will be in the media 19063 zip code, which makes up the rose tree media school district, which is an excellent school district. The schools in that district are all pretty close. Media elementary is the closest right in downtown media across from the media theator. Glennwood elem. is right on pennell road near route 1. Penncrest highschool is near the granite run mall. Springton lake middle school is off of providence road 5 minutes away and indian lane elem is also minutes away. Woodlands at Ridley Creek - New Homes in Media, PA by Toll Brothers (http://www.tollbrothers.com/homesearch/servlet/HomeSearch?app=community_description&comm_num=1090 6 - broken link)
04-27-2011, 07:19 AM
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Toll Brothers builds junk, not to mention their questionable sales practices. You'd be better off buying a slightly older home by a reputable builder. Andover by Vaughan Builders comes to mind...
04-27-2011, 09:00 AM
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Toll Brothers builds junk, not to mention their questionable sales practices. You'd be better off buying a slightly older home by a reputable builder. Andover by Vaughan Builders comes to mind...
What do you mean by toll Brothers builds junk? Andover is nice development as well, but they are in the same price range, smaller homes overall, and similar lot size. They also dont have the convience of being 3 minutes from downtown media. Andover is in Glenn Mills, which is a great area, but not as convient IMO.
04-27-2011, 09:02 AM
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I second the comment about Toll Brothers not building quality homes. I've heard it from many people and have read it on this board regarding the Naval Square homes in Philly that Toll built.
04-28-2011, 05:07 AM
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What do you mean by toll Brothers builds junk? Andover is nice development as well, but they are in the same price range, smaller homes overall, and similar lot size. They also dont have the convience of being 3 minutes from downtown media. Andover is in Glenn Mills, which is a great area, but not as convient IMO.
If you search for Toll Brothers here and in other states/forums you will find lots of complaints about materials and workmanship. They are not the worst but still overpriced and not customer friendly. Secondly they do things like sell single homes with a promise of great views at a premium then create a development of townhomes within spitting distance, spoiling the view that someone paid a premium for. Talk about deceptive business practices!
04-28-2011, 06:10 AM
Location: Bella Vista
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What do you mean by toll Brothers builds junk? Andover is nice development as well, but they are in the same price range, smaller homes overall, and similar lot size. They also dont have the convience of being 3 minutes from downtown media. Andover is in Glenn Mills, which is a great area, but not as convient IMO.
not exactly sure what you're going on by thinking toll brothers is not junk... I mean they're basically infamous for building shoddy garbage.
Williamsburg waterfront condo residents complain of 'shoddy' construction - NYPOST.com
Toll Brothers Complaints - Bad construction
The Truth About Toll Brothers
Disgruntled Northside Piers Buyers Declare War on Toll Brothers - Complaints Dept. - Curbed NY
the internet is littered with complaints. i can't believe they're about to still operate their business under the toll brothers name.
04-28-2011, 06:55 AM
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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the reality is that when you're in the homebuilding business and you build that many homes, there are always going to be construction issues and you'll have articles like that written about you. it justed isn't an exact enough science where you can eliminate all known problems. but remember, while Toll is a "higher end" production builder, they are still a production builder, which allows them to keep prices lower than they otherwise would be. if you want custom home quality, you have to pay for it.
04-28-2011, 07:17 AM
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This person asked a question, so I answered it because I live minutes away. Relatives and friends of mine live in toll homes and they have not had problems, so yes there are complaints, there are complaints about any home building company, but they are not the norm. My only problem with toll is that they are cheap on lot size.
04-28-2011, 08:05 AM
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the reality is that when you're in the homebuilding business and you build that many homes, there are always going to be construction issues and you'll have articles like that written about you. it justed isn't an exact enough science where you can eliminate all known problems. but remember, while Toll is a "higher end" production builder, they are still a production builder, which allows them to keep prices lower than they otherwise would be. if you want custom home quality, you have to pay for it.
understandable. i do however think that the reputation that toll brothers carries is considerably worse than any other home builder.
could it be simply because of the size and scope of their operation? i.e. because they build so many homes there are more home that have a chance to have a problem and have people complain about it. sure, i could see that.
but all i'm saying is, i can't even really think of the name of another home builder... much less one with a bad reputation. toll brothers is kind of infamous. i'm pretty sure aside from the home building issues they were also convicted of investor fraud or something like that.
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Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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