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Old 05-04-2018, 07:51 AM
 
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterta.../#32e44ddd32e5

Another good article. Forbes showcasing Fishtown.
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Old 05-04-2018, 01:47 PM
 
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterta.../#32e44ddd32e5

Another good article. Forbes showcasing Fishtown.
Today's Fishtown does not resemble the one Charles Murray wrote about in Coming Apart as an example of a somewhat dying white working class community. That book ended in 2010. He was not expecting gentrification to happen there. Obviously he was wrong about it just like he is about a lot of things.
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Old 05-04-2018, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Today's Fishtown does not resemble the one Charles Murray wrote about in Coming Apart as an example of a somewhat dying white working class community. That book ended in 2010. He was not expecting gentrification to happen there. Obviously he was wrong about it just like he is about a lot of things.
Not sure who that is but just about everyone knew of gentrification in Fishtown in 2010. The owners of Standard Tap bought Johnny Brendas in 2003, Memphis Taproom opened in 2008, etc. Those looking to invest in Fishtown real estate pretty much missed the boat by 2010.
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Old 05-05-2018, 09:42 AM
 
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Not sure who that is but just about everyone knew of gentrification in Fishtown in 2010. The owners of Standard Tap bought Johnny Brendas in 2003, Memphis Taproom opened in 2008, etc. Those looking to invest in Fishtown real estate pretty much missed the boat by 2010.
Murray's biggest claim to fame is the book, The Bell Curve. There is a pretty good wiki page about it and the controversy around it.

Personally I think Murray used Fishtown as a kind of abstract metaphor for what constituted "decline" in his head without dwelling on whether it was actually true.
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Old 05-06-2018, 09:24 AM
 
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Although there are pockets on South St of what she describes, my experience of South Street has been a lot more positive than this!

https://www.phillymag.com/news/2018/...-philadelphia/
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Old 05-06-2018, 02:48 PM
 
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Although there are pockets on South St of what she describes, my experience of South Street has been a lot more positive than this!

https://www.phillymag.com/news/2018/...-philadelphia/
Coming from someone brand new to the area it's refreshing to here your take on it. The history in the article is pretty accurate from what I remember at least from the mid-70s through the very early 90s. However the writer left out a couple of things. The lower/eastern part of South St was an extension of the "gayborhood" beyond the better known one centered around 13th St. The TLA theater was a repertory film movie house for many years. Something that for film buff is lacking in the area. And South St was part of the original restaurant renaissance during the 70s into the early 80s with places like the Knave Hearts, Lickety Split and Cafe Nola.
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Old 05-06-2018, 02:57 PM
 
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Coming from someone brand new to the area it's refreshing to here your take on it. The history in the article is pretty accurate from what I remember at least from the mid-70s through the very early 90s. However the writer left out a couple of things. The lower/eastern part of South St was an extension of the "gayborhood" beyond the better known one centered around 13th St. The TLA theater was a repertory film movie house for many years. Something that for film buff is lacking in the area. And South St was part of the original restaurant renaissance during the 70s into the early 80s with places like the Knave Hearts, Lickety Split and Cafe Nola.
Good info, thanks. I missed the street festival this weekend but I'll do some more exploring when I get a chance.
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Old 05-07-2018, 06:27 AM
 
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Good info, thanks. I missed the street festival this weekend but I'll do some more exploring when I get a chance.
A couple others you might want check out are the ones in Rittenhouse along Walnut and the Italian Market one on 9th St.
They're usually this month.
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Old 05-07-2018, 07:59 AM
 
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A couple others you might want check out are the ones in Rittenhouse along Walnut and the Italian Market one on 9th St.
They're usually this month.
Will do. Spruce Street Harbor Park opens this weekend, too.
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Old 05-07-2018, 10:34 AM
 
Location: New York City
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https://philly.curbed.com/2018/5/4/1...latinum-market

Hopefully a 2018 groundbreaking... I was also near Drexel last week and noticed that the former Fire Stone is in early stages of demolition. That will be another excellent development for U City.
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