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Old 07-20-2018, 07:12 AM
 
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Leaving New York to Find the American Dream in Philadelphia

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/20/n...mmigrants.html

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Immigrant or hipster, there’s a chief reason for choosing Philadelphia over New York: Cost of living. The American dream feels more attainable in Philadelphia at the moment.
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Part of New York’s function, the study said, is to “receive large flows of foreign migrants and to redistribute people across the nation.” Those redistributed to Philadelphia will find a town on a winning streak. The population of the city is growing for the first time in decades, buoyed by both immigrants and millennials in Center City drawn by the luxury of living, working and drinking within the same few blocks. The skyline is rapidly expanding on both sides of the Schuylkill, punctuated by the nearly complete Comcast tower, the tallest building in the city.
Good stuff here.
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Old 07-20-2018, 07:38 AM
 
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Leaving New York to Find the American Dream in Philadelphia

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/20/n...mmigrants.html





Good stuff here.
Great article. The New York Times has released some very good articles showcasing Philadelphia over the last few years. Unlike the Washington Post which always seems to give backhanded compliments to the city.

I am glad the writer addressed that silly "6th borough" comment from a while back.

A correction though, Philadelphia lost the capital to DC not NYC.
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Old 07-20-2018, 07:47 AM
 
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The problem is that ONE party politics makes it extremely unlikely for competition to be realistic. And I don't like Republicans any more than Democrats. The machine and its control is very real.
"Tammany Hall" politics at its best.
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Old 07-20-2018, 08:13 AM
 
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The problem is that ONE party politics makes it extremely unlikely for competition to be realistic. And I don't like Republicans any more than Democrats. The machine and its control is very real.
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Re Nutter. All why we miss him.

I suppose one could say mayoral competence is cyclical.

Over the last 30 years we've had Wilson Goode who allowed a segment of a very intact/nice, majority black, Cobbs Creek neighborhood to be bombed and burned up all to evict MOVE in 1985. Dozens of Philadelphians lost their homes and were never made right because it.

Next was Ed Rendell, a wonderkin NY native, who first got everyone's attention by becoming Phila. DA at the age of 35! His admin is when people seriously began to believe that Philadelphia could see a new day. He went on to become PA gov.

Then John Street who could have been a good mayor. But when the FBI decides there's a reason to bug your offices there's likely probable cause. In the midst of the Street era was Sam Katz who ran against him twice and almost won the first time as a Republican. Katz switched parties as a ploy and became the only viable Rep. mayoral candidate in decades. It would have been a stunning defeat for local Democrats since, as stated, Katz almost won. What would a Mayor Katz have been like? A lot like Nutter was, imo.

Nutter was next which you read about. And now we have incompetence again with Kenney.
Interesting history. I remember reading somewhere (not reliable, I know), that PA liked to consider itself part of New England, I find Philadelphia to be more like the south (New Orleans comes to mind, where I lived for 2 years) and the history you describe supports that.
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Old 07-20-2018, 08:58 AM
 
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Interesting history. I remember reading somewhere (not reliable, I know), that PA liked to consider itself part of New England, I find Philadelphia to be more like the south (New Orleans comes to mind, where I lived for 2 years) and the history you describe supports that.
Different parts of Pennsylvania could lean towards other geographic sections. Philadelphia & South Jersey are MidAtlantic, without a doubt.
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Old 07-20-2018, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia Pa
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Great article. The New York Times has released some very good articles showcasing Philadelphia over the last few years. Unlike the Washington Post which always seems to give backhanded compliments to the city.

I am glad the writer addressed that silly "6th borough" comment from a while back.

A correction though, Philadelphia lost the capital to DC not NYC.
Not sure I'd say this article is so flattering to our city. I know the story focus is on immigrants leaving NYC for greener pastures, but the pictures and narrative imply to me that Philadelphia is a "cheap" and slightly "run down" city that is a haven for ethnic groups who run basic mom and pops, are small time landlords, or otherwise involved in non-profit type businesses. There is no mention of immigrants coming here and starting tech businesses (many have and do) or opening high-end restaurants in center city, or opening a successful law firm, etc... I'm actually a little disappointed in what I would call lazy journalism. Looks like the journalist spent an evening at the Bok bar, took some pics from there, and then interviewed a handful of people who were probably provided to her...
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Old 07-20-2018, 10:09 AM
 
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Not sure I'd say this article is so flattering to our city. I know the story focus is on immigrants leaving NYC for greener pastures, but the pictures and narrative imply to me that Philadelphia is a "cheap" and slightly "run down" city that is a haven for ethnic groups who run basic mom and pops, are small time landlords, or otherwise involved in non-profit type businesses. There is no mention of immigrants coming here and starting tech businesses (many have and do) or opening high-end restaurants in center city, or opening a successful law firm, etc... I'm actually a little disappointed in what I would call lazy journalism. Looks like the journalist spent an evening at the Bok bar, took some pics from there, and then interviewed a handful of people who were probably provided to her...
The title of the article is "Leaving New York to Find the American Dream in Philadelphia." Don't let your innate Negadelphian attitude ruin this. Trust me, it's a fairly flattering article.
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Old 07-20-2018, 10:28 AM
 
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The title of the article is "Leaving New York to Find the American Dream in Philadelphia." Don't let your innate Negadelphian attitude ruin this. Trust me, it's a fairly flattering article.
I have discovered during my 6 months here, that it's a fine line between reality and negadelphian attitudes and as with most things, in the eye of the beholder. City Center may be the primary tourist attraction draw (as well it should be), but it is not representative of Philadelphia as a whole. Although I think the article does reflect accurately the neighborhoods it portrays, it could have been more thorough which I think would have shown the city in a more positive light.
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Old 07-20-2018, 10:36 AM
 
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I have discovered during my 6 months here, that it's a fine line between reality and negadelphian attitudes and as with most things, in the eye of the beholder. City Center may be the primary tourist attraction draw (as well it should be), but it is not representative of Philadelphia as a whole. Although I think the article does reflect accurately the neighborhoods it portrays, it could have been more thorough which I think would have shown the city in a more positive light.
City Center? Do you mean Center City?

Here is the WNYC on-air piece. Sorry, but this is great PR.
https://www.wnyc.org/story/new-yorks...-philadelphia/
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Old 07-20-2018, 10:40 AM
 
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City Center? Do you mean Center City?

Here is the WNYC on-air piece. Sorry, but this is great PR.
https://www.wnyc.org/story/new-yorks...-philadelphia/
Ugh yes, Center City. Need more coffee.
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