01-29-2015, 08:20 PM
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Subway = BSL (Orange Line)
El = MFL (Blue Line)
Schuylkill. Not 76.
Only been here a year and a half and those things really have been drilled into me.
As someone who spent his entire childhood in the region, rest assured that plenty of natives use 76 and "the Schuylkill" interchangeably.
Neither line was on my radar as a child, so it's harder to say. I never had the occasion to use it until I moved into the City for grad school, where there were tons of transplants. I feel like a decent number of Philadelphians will switch between subway and el for Market Frankford depending on surface level, but I'm not as confident on that one.
Regardless, it's interesting to see the way people's anecdotal/subjective experiences differ when it comes to nomenclature--transplants, especially. All it takes is one native to convince you his way is the "only" way, when, in fact, there can be several terminologies.
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01-29-2015, 08:34 PM
Location: Philly
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As someone who spent his entire childhood in the region, rest assured that plenty of natives use 76 and "the Schuylkill" interchangeably.
Neither line was on my radar as a child, so it's harder to say. I never had the occasion to use it until I moved into the City for grad school, where there were tons of transplants. I feel like a decent number of Philadelphians will switch between subway and el for Market Frankford depending on surface level, but I'm not as confident on that one.
Regardless, it's interesting to see the way people's anecdotal/subjective experiences differ when it comes to nomenclature--transplants, especially.
All it takes is one native to convince you his way is he "only" way, when, in fact, there can be several terminologies.
Yes! One thing that I have enjoyed is how people from Philly are very confident that their way is the right way. "It's this, and anything you hear elsewhere is wrong!". It is a sort of genuine passion for their city that makes it so charming. I'm slowly adopting this city as my own.
01-29-2015, 09:24 PM
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My boyfriend refers to any place in PA that isn't Philly as "Upstate." Lol.
01-29-2015, 09:54 PM
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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Do native actually call the highways by the numbers? I'm a transplant, so I do it, but I've always heard they are mentioned by the names:
I76 = Schuylkill
I676 = Vine
I276 = Turnpike
I476 = Northeast Extension (I do hear I476 for the non-toll portion)
I76 = the Schuylkill &, if you lived through the Schuylkill reconstruction, the Sure-kill.
01-29-2015, 11:18 PM
Location: Bella Vista
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All of these lists are so dumb. As though the entirety of Philadelphia is a hive mind that thinks alike.
I normally call the MFL the el, but I've heard it called the subway plenty of times or the blue line. I feel like I normally hear BSL with spoken letters most often our other main subway line, but also simply the subway and the orange line, though I must say I have NEVER heard anyone call it the el.
76 or Schuylkill seems like a 50 - 50 split and 676 or vine is another split that I feel leans more strongly to Vine.
And I hear plenty of people say they're going downtown or "in town" especially if they're headed to a part of Center City that isn't the central business district.
My point is any hard and fast rule that attempts to explain how all Philadelphians think is pointless. Even ones that you think you can take for granted. Plenty of kids I grew up with in philly were cowboys fans. Does that mean they're aholes? Probably. But you can't tell me they're not Philadelphians none the less.
I also hold a number of views that are probably considered very against the common Philadelphian mind set but good luck convincing me I'm not a Philadelphian. Most egregious are probably the following:
- Don't mind the PPA: Sorry everyone, never got a ticket. Granted, I didn't get my license until I was in my mid 20s and I've only had a car in my household for the past few years, but I've still yet to receive a single ticket. PPA in my mind brings money to our city by ticketing people who can't be bothered to park legally and for whom I have no sympathy.
- The mummers are dumb - The list mentions not "getting" the mummers. I "get" them alright. An excuse for old white people to get drunk and be racist. I'm not on board. Sorry fellow Philadelphians.
-The wing bowl is a total embarrassment - This one is timely. I really hate the wing bowl and I will be overjoyed when this event dies a merciful death.
01-30-2015, 01:00 AM
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That's a great point about the Mummers. I forgot about that post. I've spent plenty of New Year's in Philly but this year was the first that I wasn't too hung over to go to the parade in person. I guess I never noticed the inherent racism involved, and I was pretty struck by it. There's a reason a lot of people want to do away with it, and now I get it.
The guy dressed up as a robotic cat with a Cylon face and a fake silver butt, though--that I did NOT get.
01-30-2015, 05:13 AM
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Don't mind the PPA: Sorry everyone, never got a ticket. Granted, I didn't get my license until I was in my mid 20s and I've only had a car in my household for the past few years, but I've still yet to receive a single ticket. PPA in my mind brings money to our city by ticketing people who can't be bothered to park legally and for whom I have no sympathy.
- The mummers are dumb - The list mentions not "getting" the mummers. I "get" them alright. An excuse for old white people to get drunk and be racist. I'm not on board. Sorry fellow Philadelphians.
-The wing bowl is a total embarrassment - This one is timely. I really hate the wing bowl and I will be overjoyed when this event dies a merciful death.
I agree with you about the PPA - Read the signs, pay attention and don't park like you're entitled and you won't have a problem.
I disagree with you about the Mummers. I've been to two of the last three parades and there was nothing "racist" about it. There were also plenty of young people participating and people of all races in the crowd. You seem to love labeling people and events "racist," (newsflash: That word has lost steam from being overused and most white people no longer care when the accusation flies) ... Give us an example of the Mummers parade being "racist."
I'm happy to tell you, but the Wing Bowl isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Have you seen the size of the crowd it draws? It's just people having fun with nobody getting hurt, it's good for the city and I believe profits go to charity. Be envious.
01-30-2015, 05:19 AM
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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That's a great point about the Mummers. I forgot about that post. I've spent plenty of New Year's in Philly but this year was the first that I wasn't too hung over to go to the parade in person. I guess I never noticed the inherent racism involved, and I was pretty struck by it. There's a reason a lot of people want to do away with it, and now I get it.
The guy dressed up as a robotic cat with a Cylon face and a fake silver butt, though--that I did NOT get.
What about it is "racist"?
01-30-2015, 05:50 AM
Location: Phila & NYC
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I have never seen anything racist about the Mummers. There is only a certain segment of the parade where you may find some marchers intoxicated. It is big production now-a days.
The city raises more money in tax revenue from the hotels, restaurants and other businesses on NYD that exceeds the cost of the parade but yet tells the Mummers get sponsorship or pay for your own parade. You can thank Congressmen Bob Brady and Sugarhouse Casino for that sponsorship, otherwise the parade would be limited and a financial loss for the city.
01-30-2015, 06:16 AM
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Cold Case def was shooting on location at times....and they did get places names right. I did enjoy Cold Case...they pretty much shot Philly before AND after the skyline changed (Comcast Center)
The creator of Cold Case went to Penn. She's also an exec producer/writer on Homeland but, heck, I'm blanking on her name.
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People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)