Safety and walkabaility in Philly...what's your opinion as a Philadelphian? (Meridian: crime, how much)

[MarketStEl]

Originally Posted by rainrock

The city Im sure trying to suppress these ridiculous events that rarely if ever happen in first class cities but the news is starting to get out.

"Is starting to"?

Seems we get flareups of this type every nine months or so.

Originally Posted by AJNEOA

I wish I could tell you. It was near 17th and Walnut, and there was a huge line with bouncers and more kids than I can count. It looked like an under age club having an event, but there was no external name to the door that everybody was going through. I just knew I wanted to get out of there soon. Most of these kids looked like they shouldn't be there (kids dressed like adults and yelling), but I'm sure their parents were doing nothing about it.

It's not an all-ages club, or at least wasn't the one time I attended an event there. It has, or had, a liquor license.

It's gone by a series of names over the last 10 years or so. I don't know what it's called now.

Parents? What are those?

[2002 Subaru]

Originally Posted by ionlyused59

I am so disheartened by all of this. There's a lot of great things about Philly but this news has just been too much. I'm over it. There's also been an uptick of gun violence in my hood. I'll live happily in a clean, safe and walkable suburb and visit Philly when I'm in the mood for a great restaurant. Hope to be out within a year.

What neighborhood are you in?

[2002 Subaru]

Originally Posted by nimshady123

Ever since they closed the tracks the addicts have been forever roaming.

This, as a resident of Bridesburg, passes the eye test.

[2002 Subaru]

Originally Posted by nimshady123

I would beg to differ that the area around Somerset is continuing to get worse. The neighborhood organizations there are very strong and a lot of work is being done to improve the neighborhood. Just look at Orinoka, the renovation is essentially complete and that used to be a building where addicts shot up. Speaking of that, that is the reason FKD to Aramingo is getting "worse." Ever since they closed the tracks the addicts have been forever roaming. I agree that this recent uptick in gun violence and flash mobs is really disheartening but to quote Kanye West " You know the kids gon' act a fool. When you stop the programs for after school." A problem in Chicago and Philadelphia both. Part of me wants to put 100% of the blame on the kids that were part of this mob and believe me a lot of the blame should be. But the fact that the school system is failing lower income children who can't afford private education definitely contribute to a growing inequality in the city of newer and wealthier residents versus the people who have lived here for years.

Yeah ..... How about blaming the parents?

[ionlyused59]

Originally Posted by 2002 Subaru

What neighborhood are you in?

Graduate Hospital but almost Point Breeze.

[2002 Subaru]

Originally Posted by ionlyused59

Graduate Hospital but almost Point Breeze.

Sorry that you're no longer feeling it.

[ionlyused59]

Originally Posted by 2002 Subaru

Sorry that you're no longer feeling it.

It's a shame because Philly is such a terrific city in so many ways. And thanks

[moneymkt]

Originally Posted by ionlyused59

It's a shame because Philly is such a terrific city in so many ways. And thanks

It is but you have to know where to go. For example when i go to center city i always make sure i stay away from 15th and walnut to 18th, 19th and chestnut to 13th and chestnut and 15th and market. I been staying away from those areas for over 20 years and never had any problems. Those are the areas that attract lots of teens which is why those are not my favorite areas.

[MarketStEl]

Originally Posted by nimshady123

[...] But the fact that the school system is failing lower income children who can't afford private education definitely contribute to a growing inequality in the city of newer and wealthier residents versus the people who have lived here for years.

The guy who started the whole ball rolling, Richard Florida, looks out on the landscape his theory of the "creative class" created and says, "My God, what have I done?" Then he writes a prescription for the disease at the end:

The New Urban Crisis | Richard Florida

Subtitle: "How Our Cities are Deepening Inequality, Increasing Segregation, and Failing the Middle Class - and What We Can Do About It"

I think that a lot of his prescription, written in the last chapter, "Urbanism for All," makes sense.

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by Kamms

Saturday night @7pm, Walnut Street the night before the Philly Marathon, nothing says welcome to Philly than a traditional Philly Flash Mob.

Kenney needs to crack down on this nonsense once and for all...he's too PC to do that though given the content of these mobs.

The effing PPD rarely does foot or bike patrol in Rittenhouse or anywhere else as a normal part of their duties. The effing PPD commish needs to be fired. During the recent Open Streets all they did was congregate at 3rd and Vine, instead of dispersing along the entire route's length.

And interestingly it was SEPTA cops who did these arrests not PPD. Also interesting because SEPTA cops are usually conspicuously absent most of the time.