Philadelphia Mayor 2023 - Official Thread (Republic, Parker: income, live, housing)

[MarketStEl]

Originally Posted by MPK21

Domb.

That said, I will look into Jeff Brown. I've heard of him and am aware of his supermarket business.

Would consider Rhynhart in the future, post-Domb.

Domb would be my Choice B. As a Realtor and property owner/manager, I think he also gets development issues better than most on Council (though this is one of the things I respect about MQS; she tries to work her concern for affordable housing into the mix in a way that doesn't kill new housing production, which — the noises of the anti-gentrification types notwithstanding* — this city badly needs). And I'd consider Rhynhart too.

*If you've never heard me explain why I'm a "two cheers for gentrification" guy, I'd be happy to tell you the reasons why.

[Redddog]

Originally Posted by MPK21

Domb.

That said, I will look into Jeff Brown. I've heard of him and am aware of his supermarket business.

Would consider Rhynhart in the future, post-Domb.

God help me. I agree with MPK on something.

[thedirtypirate]

The more time goes by the more I'm inclined to support Rhynhart over Domb.

[thedirtypirate]

I saw someone make a good point about Jeff Brown. What has he done in the general public's eye in the last few years aside from selfishly fighting the soda tax? Which, in retrospect, did none of the things he said were going to happen

[MarketStEl]

Originally Posted by thedirtypirate

I saw someone make a good point about Jeff Brown. What has he done in the general public's eye in the last few years aside from selfishly fighting the soda tax? Which, in retrospect, did none of the things he said were going to happen

One of the things that got him press notice, and one of the reasons I like him for mayor, is his practice of hiring released convicts to work in his supermarkets. "The same skill set you use to move rock can be used to move mac and cheese," I recall one such employee saying in the Philadelphia Inquirer article about his practice.

This was back when the Inky still ran reader comments, and to judge what readers posted in response to this article, you'd think that rapes and murders were being committed in his ShopRite stores every day.

This brought home to me something that I think many, maybe most, Americans clearly don't understand: Once you've done your time, you've paid your debt to society, and you're not supposed to be charged interest after you've paid. Also: if we want to cut down on recidivism, then the answer is to plug the released convicts into the legit economy as soon as possible. Jeff Brown got both points.

He also uses his stores to showcase and assist local businesses that make food products to sell (mainly). ( know this from repeated visits to the Fresh Grocer store he owns at Cedarbrook Plaza.) Given the location of several of his stores, many of these businesses are Black-owned. So I suspect he gets economic development and job creation intuitively. I'm not sure that's a knowledge base most City Council members possess.

I don't know a single grocer or soda distributor who didn't fight the tax. The way it was applied, however, did not achieve its real goal: it wasn't a means to fund pre-K primarily but rather a public-health measure intended to drive down consumption of sugary beverages and thus (proponents hoped) reduce the growing incidence of obesity among the populace. (Some opponents did manage to get it to apply to all sweetened beverages, whether or not they contained sugar.) I think one opponent did describe it as a nanny-state move. Do we know if sales of sweetened beverages did fall in the city? And, maybe equally important, did they rise at supermarkets located on or near the city line on the other side of it? I do believe I heard stories of people simply switching their shopping from a store inside the city to one outside it to beat the tax.

[thedirtypirate]

Originally Posted by MarketStEl

One of the things that got him press notice, and one of the reasons I like him for mayor, is his practice of hiring released convicts to work in his supermarkets. "The same skill set you use to move rock can be used to move mac and cheese," I recall one such employee saying in the Philadelphia Inquirer article about his practice.

This was back when the Inky still ran reader comments, and to judge what readers posted in response to this article, you'd think that rapes and murders were being committed in his ShopRite stores every day.

This brought home to me something that I think many, maybe most, Americans clearly don't understand: Once you've done your time, you've paid your debt to society, and you're not supposed to be charged interest after you've paid. Also: if we want to cut down on recidivism, then the answer is to plug the released convicts into the legit economy as soon as possible. Jeff Brown got both points.

He also uses his stores to showcase and assist local businesses that make food products to sell (mainly). ( know this from repeated visits to the Fresh Grocer store he owns at Cedarbrook Plaza.) Given the location of several of his stores, many of these businesses are Black-owned. So I suspect he gets economic development and job creation intuitively. I'm not sure that's a knowledge base most City Council members possess.

I don't know a single grocer or soda distributor who didn't fight the tax. The way it was applied, however, did not achieve its real goal: it wasn't a means to fund pre-K primarily but rather a public-health measure intended to drive down consumption of sugary beverages and thus (proponents hoped) reduce the growing incidence of obesity among the populace. (Some opponents did manage to get it to apply to all sweetened beverages, whether or not they contained sugar.) I think one opponent did describe it as a nanny-state move. Do we know if sales of sweetened beverages did fall in the city? And, maybe equally important, did they rise at supermarkets located on or near the city line on the other side of it? I do believe I heard stories of people simply switching their shopping from a store inside the city to one outside it to beat the tax.

Lol I like how much you go to bat for this guy. I have an open mind and appreciate your thoughts on the matter. According to a Penn study last year, sales dropped a little, but not much

[cpomp]

Looks like Domb is officially running.
There is quite a lineup of solid candidates. Let's hope Philly voters have some good voting sense next year.


Real estate magnate and former Councilmember Allan Domb is running for Philly mayor
https://www.inquirer.com/politics/el...-20221115.html


Election question: If a Council person runs for Mayor and loses, are they allowed to run for Council again, or they're done?

[JamesJay64]

For me:

1. Domb
2. Rhynhart
3. Brown

I am worried that without ranked-choice voting, they will split the "moderate" vote and some corrupt, do-nothing, establishment fool like Parker or MQS will win. I've only lived in Philly a couple years so if I have the wrong impression of them, please educate me.

[thedirtypirate]

Originally Posted by JamesJay64

For me:

1. Domb
2. Rhynhart
3. Brown

I am worried that without ranked-choice voting, they will split the "moderate" vote and some corrupt, do-nothing, establishment fool like Parker or MQS will win. I've only lived in Philly a couple years so if I have the wrong impression of them, please educate me.

Nah there’s a real possibility. It’s absolutely how Larry Krasner got elected the first time

[MarketStEl]

Originally Posted by cpomp

Looks like Domb is officially running.
There is quite a lineup of solid candidates. Let's hope Philly voters have some good voting sense next year.


Real estate magnate and former Councilmember Allan Domb is running for Philly mayor
https://www.inquirer.com/politics/el...-20221115.html


Election question: If a Council person runs for Mayor and loses, are they allowed to run for Council again, or they're done?

The City Charter does not prevent a candidate who resigned their elected office in order to run for another one from running to get the old office back afterwards if they lose. However, they will need to wait until the next election to do so, which means they will now be going up against an incumbent, which is usually a position that candidate would not want to find themselves in.