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Old 05-24-2018, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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Okay, this is a little off for the Phil forum, but if there's a better fit on C-D, I can't find it.

Watchmen and Juvenal fans are quite familiar with the phrase "Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes" - Who will guard the guardians?/Who will watch the watchmen?

In the early days of the graphic novels, a button was sold as part of a set that reads "Ego Ipse Custodes Custodio" - which, I've found, is ignorantly explained as having the same meaning, or as being the Latin source for the English version. My Latin is a little shaky, but I can tell that's not what it says, and a couple of translation tools show a garbled version of what I think it means - "I (will?) Watch the Watchmen."

Any Latin mavens who can correct/confirm/comment? Thanks...
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Old 05-24-2018, 11:01 AM
 
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I
The
Watchers
Watch.


Batman.
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Old 05-24-2018, 11:02 AM
 
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Hawkeye asked him who then watches the watchers. That was Batman response - I am thy watcher.
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Old 05-24-2018, 11:44 AM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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From (long ago) memory--Ego ipso means I myself.

Custodes would be the plural of custos.

Custodio is the first person indicative of custor.

So...I guard the guards.
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Old 05-24-2018, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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Thanks. I realize it's not the most literate genre and half-truths tend to propagate unchecked, but it's maddening to see the two phrases confused.

Appreciate the quick responses!
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Old 05-25-2018, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Venice Italy
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Maybe op you had to write the whole sentence it would have been easier to understand...here we go, Shut the door, keep other ppl out, but who will supervise the overseers? The wife is smart she will start with those. wants to mean that the woman is very clever / smart ( in evil sense ) she will start to corrupt the vigilantes, so the vigilantes control the others... I control the vigilantes.






N.B: mulieres parce mihi
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