10-10-2010, 10:38 AM
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Right on Kdog, I am not talking about hunting in the pastures of a dairy farm in NC, although I think it is morally irresponsible to kill an animal just because someone has a problem with his cattle, this is what is called the cost of doing business and this person can find an easier way of dealing with this problem then killing. Twiggy...you need help if this is your answer to this problem. Here in AZ coyotes roam free, they take care of our vermon and rabbit over population, very rarely threaten humans, none that I have heard or read about and are very cool to observe, try doing that before killing one.... You should know this before moving here and if you really love your pet will seek better ways to protect them then killing another animal...it's called fences people...buy one install it problem solved.
10-10-2010, 01:20 PM
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Maybe consider a Great Pyrenees .
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I was going to say not to put an ice rink in your backyard. But then I thought you might not be talking about those kinds of coyotes.
10-11-2010, 02:58 AM
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Maybe consider a Great Pyrenees .
I was going to say the exact same thing. Get a Great Pyrenees. I am a cat person, but a Great Pyrenees wondered into my yard ten years ago and I fell in love with its disposition. I finally got one for myself three years ago and they are smart, loving, loyal, love kids, cats, small animals and are very keen when it comes to the sights, smells and sounds of a coyote even if they aren't brought up on a ranch guarding flocks since they were puppies. My Great Pyrenees saw a coyote at the dog park and went beserk patrolling the perimeter of the fence line. There are lots of ranchers who use them to protect their flocks and herds and my cats love their protector!! And everywhere you go people wil come up to you to ask about that big, white fluffy dog that they all swear is a polar bear!
10-12-2010, 09:26 PM
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Right on Dog, I am not talking about hunting in the pastures of a dairy farm in NC, although I think it is morally irresponsible to kill an animal just because someone has a problem with his cattle, this is what is called the cost of doing business and this person can find an easier way of dealing with this problem then killing. Twiggy...you need help if this is your answer to this problem. Here in AZ coyotes roam free, they take care of our vermin and rabbit over population, very rarely threaten humans, none that I have heard or read about and are very cool to observe, try doing that before killing one.... You should know this before moving here and if you really love your pet will seek better ways to protect them then killing another animal...it's called fences people...buy one install it problem solved.
The original post was talking about them jumping over his fence to kill his dog.
I should observe that? First?
I don't think so, so let me get this straight, hunting them to protect a dairy farm of cows you let someone else torture and kill so you can eat a steak or have some of their kids milk is fine or, a little ok, but shooting one that comes into your yard and eats your dog isn't? If I went into their den they would try and kill me, and I would expect it. They don't think of themselves as fuzzy sort of pet coyotes. They know they could be hurt jumping over that fence, and so would we.
Watch some animal planet.
I'm a vegetarian and it never ceases to amaze me, watching people who protect the local wild life from being killed by a home owner if they come into their yard, to kill one of their pets, while they munch down on a cow or pig. I mean, I think it makes a lot more sense to shoot an animal that's attacking your dog then wait in line at the butcher. I think hunters that kill meat for food are way more humane than people who eat Micky D's as well.
If you are not a vegan, then just stop rambling, if you are then, understand that I think of myself as an animal too. If a coyote was going into a bears territory to get some of his food, he would be killed as well. Law of the land. I wouldn't just go target shooting coyotes, is that really what you got from that post?
I understand they are cute, and look like dogs, but they are not dogs and if you start letting them jump fences and eating pets, one day you will have a yard full of coyotes, and one might get your little kid by mistake. All animals, including them, stake territory. We are no different.
But, I'll look into something being wrong with me, just for you, ok!
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10-12-2010, 09:37 PM
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Do you kill everyone walking down the road who looks like they may be a hungry robber?
If you have a fenced in yard, and a coyote manages to get into it, then have at it. If you don't have a fenced in yard, and you've got scruffy chained up on a leash, which is the moral equivalent of Purina Coyote Chow, then you don't have a leg to stand on. 99% of coyotes will do you no harm. So there's no point in trying to eradicate coyotes off the face of the earth simply because you're paranoid.
Well, um, no, I wouldn't and I wouldn't kill coyotes that I saw walking down the street either unless it started to attack someone first. But, if it started jumping into my yard, I wouldn't just observe it eating fluffy. Thats stupid!
If I had fluffy on my lawn, and a guy came into my yard and started kicking it, and choking it, I might shoot him. But, I guess you would just understand that he was mentally ill and needed help, try and talk to him gently, and let him kill your dog and then go about his way because he is human after all and deserves to be on this land too. Fluffy was just like baiting him, because he really needed to kick a dog that day to get rid of his frustration.
I know, we are smarter right? Thats what you're thinking? Thats why we have pets, animals we keep hostage and make them depend on us for food and do cute tricks right? Because we are so much smarter than a coyote. haha Right! We cage animals all their lives for our food source, and pay others to murder them, cuz we have the brains. Oh, and we hate people who go hunting, they are sooooo brutal, right? What ever, I guess I'm just really cold hearted. Right? And, let me guess, you had a nice big juicy steak tonight, Right? ha ha
You go dog!
10-12-2010, 10:09 PM
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And, let me guess, you had a nice big juicy steak tonight, Right? ha ha
You go dog!
I don't eat red meat, but thanks for playing. And since you're delving into personal attacks now, I guess you're out of legitimate points to make.
10-12-2010, 10:18 PM
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10-12-2010, 10:39 PM
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Now that would work!!!! Rolling funny!
10-12-2010, 11:06 PM
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I don't eat red meat, but thanks for playing. And since you're delving into personal attacks now, I guess you're out of legitimate points to make.
Aw, poor chickens!
Kidding, sorry, didn't mean to personally attack you dude, just think you all are going into a silly topic, and I'm sort of a smart ass. It doesn't really have anything to do with the thread and I was just giving my opinion, sorry you don't like it. I don't know what your definition of legitimate points are or how that even pertains to your opinions but what the heck, I guess I don't. All out, think this is silly and has nothing to do with the thread.
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People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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