03-06-2014, 09:44 PM
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I panicked so badly when we sold our house in CT, that I pulled the plug on our rental we had lined up in AZ and we had a total of 2 weeks to find a rental in CT so we could stay there because I got major cold feet. (and CT has almost NO rental market, especially 2 weeks out, we found something though). It is completely normal to feel that way. I had such a sense of dread and convinced my husband to stay an extra year in CT. Within about 2 months, I realized we should have just done it.
Definitely rent first. You'll find somewhere that is willing to work with you with the cats. But I honestly don't think I would have made the same decision on a location of a house to buy, being here for only a 4 day weekend. It is not enough time to really get to know the area. It's much better to know you can leave it after a year if you don't like your location, rather than get stuck with a house that you really don't want to be in.
And lastly - know that nothing needs to be forever. Even if you get here and decide you want to move back, you have the option to do that. It'll all be ok.
03-07-2014, 07:49 AM
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I'd say come out here Mayish and RENT for at least 6 months. Till October.
That's what I did when I first moved to the Valley. Best decision ever.
4 days of heat are a lot easier to tolerate than 5 months of it. You want to make sure you can live comfortably in our not so mild climate.
Good luck!
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03-07-2014, 08:25 AM
Location: Mesa, AZ (via NY)
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I'm moving out from the eastcoast in June and definitely recommend renting first. That's what I'm doing so that I can the lay of the land since the area is so BIG. Most of the apt complexes that I have seen allow pets with the added deposit like others mentioned. You shouldn't have an issue. Good luck!
UPDATE: I just noticed that you're looking to rent a 4 BR house. I'm sure it works the same way for the most part with an added pet deposit although I'm sure you'll run into a few people who won't allow pets but I doubt it will be a major issue.
03-07-2014, 08:42 AM
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Definitely normal. We owned and lived in our house for the last 7 years and have lived here for 22 years. The older I'm getting the more I am bothered by the feeling that I'm not where I want to be and that I definitely don't see myself growing old here.
I've been letting my husband know this for years and it took a lot to get him on board to move closer to his work, he works 60 miles north of where we live. So really it would make his life easier commute wise but he was comfortable with the status quo. This was last spring...I had renters lined up for our house and he got cold feet. I didn't back down and still had our renters move in and we found a rental in the same city. 3 months into it he wished we would have done the move...but we had a 1 year lease...so here we are about to move next month to where we were going last year.
The house buying part I think is what gave you major cold feet and the feelings of anxiety. Rent , and like others have noted, if you really don't like it you can always move back. But you won't know until you try.
Something I've noticed in our situation is that other people do trip out a little that you are wanting or making a move happen. I think many people are just very content where they are and that makes it more plain to me that I clearly don't feel that way. And some people are scared to get out and make changes. It's a different scenario when the decision is made for you, for example, your husband's job is transferred and if he wants a job he has to move. When you are spearheading the change in life it's often scarier because you feel the responsibility of the possible negative what-ifs.
The reason I'm responding in the AZ thread is because I've been reading this AZ forum for several years now because in the back of my mind I have a dream of owning a 2nd home there or moving there. Need to visit first though
Good luck!!
03-07-2014, 09:41 AM
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I have been planning a move with my family since last year when we visited Arizona in July. We all fell in love with it, both my sons, my husband and myself. Everyone is excited about moving and we have planned for months and months with everything. We just flew out this past weekend and went house shopping and I love the area, went hiking at the White Tank Mountain, LOVE the amount of Produce I can get at the grocery stores (we are vegans and pay so much for so little where we live), I love seeing mountains every where we go, we love to hike, the sun makes me so happy when it shines, I feel my best in the sunshine as anyone would, I am used to cloudy, rainy, snowy days here, with nothing to do unless we drive 1.5 hours away one way. Ever since I put my house up for sale, I have not felt 100% now, it's like I have this doubt in the back of my mind, scared, scared of losing the secure feeling I have here, but I can work remotely and my husband has a transfer whenever he wants to take it, it's not exactly a worry of income, it's just that feeling of being used to being here even though I don't want to be here, does that make sense? I am so overcome by it the past few days that I feel like now I just don't want to talk about it for a few days, my husband is so excited but right now I just feel overcome by worry, I went through this last month and within a few days it went away and I was back to feeling excited again. I just worry about how all of our lives are changing, my son is going to college (I am excited for him) my other son starts 11th grade and is looking forward to it, but just all the changes I feel doubt now. I just need to know if I am going to get worse as it gets closer, I feel like I am
i can totally relate. i almost chickened out of a move i had been planning (and dreaming about) for years! i had the exact same feeling of dread at the thought of leaving my little comfort zone, even though I didn't like the area that much.
03-07-2014, 12:19 PM
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I'd say come out here Mayish and RENT for at least 6 months. Till October.
That's what I did when I first moved to the Valley. Best decision ever.
4 days of heat are a lot easier to tolerate than 5 months of it. You want to make sure you can live comfortably in our not so mild climate.
Good luck!
Move here for the five hottest months and then decide if you want to stay? I understand where you are coming from but I think that is terrible advice. Who would want to stay? The reason that people have come here by the millions is not because of the five hottest months. It is because the other seven are basically day after day, week after week, month after month of weather like they only see on a few rare days in places like Chicago. If you never experience the never-ending blue skies and dry air you have no idea whether the bad summer is worth it for the rest of the year. You would just run like crazy and say I am never going back there.
This is true of anywhere. If one were moving to Michigan for example, I would think they ought to stay around to see the green of summer and the color of fall instead of arriving in December and then leaving come April.
03-07-2014, 04:58 PM
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A lot of people rent here with cats. I've never had an issue of them saying no back when I rented with cats, just an added pet deposit of around $150 - 300 depending on the property owner and the amount of kitties. No worries.
It might take about 6 months to get use to a new routine, and new environment but I'm sure you'll grow to love the sunshine. When you go back for a visit you'll want to get back here to it. It's addicting. We aren't the 3rd fastest growing city for nothing. Keep telling yourself that, it will help.
Keep us informed about your move, that's what we are here for.
6 months to get used to it here? Took me about 6 minutes!
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03-07-2014, 05:58 PM
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Move here for the five hottest months and then decide if you want to stay? I understand where you are coming from but I think that is terrible advice. Who would want to stay? The reason that people have come here by the millions is not because of the five hottest months. It is because the other seven are basically day after day, week after week, month after month of weather like they only see on a few rare days in places like Chicago. If you never experience the never-ending blue skies and dry air you have no idea whether the bad summer is worth it for the rest of the year. You would just run like crazy and say I am never going back there.
This is true of anywhere. If one were moving to Michigan for example, I would think they ought to stay around to see the green of summer and the color of fall instead of arriving in December and then leaving come April.
Good point! I will revise my advice to:
Rent for a YEAR before buying. See if the beautiful half of the year outweighs the brutal half.
Real life example - my mother. She came out here in late September(it's still hot here, you know?) and LOVED the winter part (duh!). Started looking for a house. But a year later after having spent
the whole summer here she said "see y'all later, I'm out of this furnace". Went on up to Idaho, got a place there and loves it.
Point being, the heat here is no joke, as you know. Some people can deal with it, some can't. It's way better to realize it
before getting locked into a house.
03-07-2014, 08:10 PM
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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Point being, the heat here is no joke, as you know. Some people can deal with it, some can't. It's way better to realize it before getting locked into a house.
You mean kind of like getting "locked" into a house in most parts of the country for many long months during the winter because of snow, ice, bitter cold, windchill, etc etc?
I know which side I'd pick in a heartbeat......
03-07-2014, 08:53 PM
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You mean kind of like getting "locked" into a house in most parts of the country for many long months during the winter because of snow, ice, bitter cold, windchill, etc etc?
I know which side I'd pick in a heartbeat......
Believe me, I'm with you on that. Not a big fan of snow myself
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Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)