Tell me what you hate about the Valley (Phoenix: income, living in)

[observer53]

What does ANY of this extended argument about Verrado have to do with "What I hate about the Valley"???

[DOUBLE H]

There is a bunch of stuff here that needs to go ***POOF***. I don't have time for it right now but later this evening I'm going to try to eliminate the off topic remarks, insults, etc., etc. I don't know the long time AZ posters enough, I do know the out of state pot stirrers though.

Stay on topic.

No personal attacks. Thread re-opened.

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

Originally Posted by observer53

What does ANY of this extended argument about Verrado have to do with "What I hate about the Valley"???

Answer:

1.) Petlover8 HATES partially developed outskirt developments. (Others love the look and feel and think Master planned Valley developments including me).

2.) Bigcats HATES the obnoxious commercials that are advertised in the Valley. DetroitN8V likes them and finds them catchy.

That's ^^ your answer.

With that said, the personal attacks were not needed and unwelcome. SCW also has nothing to do with the thread. Also, it's nice to partially stray off course in a thread now and then (within reason). It makes C-D infinitely more interesting to visit. I know I am not alone.

So what do I hate about the Valley? People who continuously try to apply their location needs and trade-offs to others. You see it here on the forum fairly often. People assume that being central is what everyone wants. They assume everyone needs to commute and that every new home is a beige boring box in every outskirt town.

[petlover8]

Originally Posted by MN-Born-n-Raised

Answer:

1.) Petlover8 HATES partially developed outskirt developments.

If that's true, then how come I bought in one?

[LagunaMom]

No ocean.

[Burning Madolf]

Originally Posted by LagunaMom

No ocean.

Yet.

[ysr_racer]

Lots of beach, just no ocean

[maverick974]

I absolutely love this area and this state but nothing is perfect.
With that said, my list of things I dislikes is short.
I hate that in most cities in the valley, the stop lights are not timed with each other. It really gets to me when I have to drive a lot that I only make about 1 in every 7 green lights even when there is little traffic.
I love Canyon Lake but hate the road going there. That road needs repaving more than any road I've driven anywhere in the valley and believe me that I drive a LOT.
Other than that, I'm very happy here.

[petlover8]

Originally Posted by locolife

This argument over humidity is hilarious, you know they track this stuff right?

Over the recorded weather history for each city Chicago on average has a higher dew point than Phoenix in July by a fairly substantial amount. As you can see the tighter band of the typical dew point represented as between 54-67, while Phoenix has a much larger band ranging from 39-64. More variability in Phoenix, as can be expected with the Monsoon moisture.

So, yes, even though some people lived in Chicago as long as I've been alive, the facts do point to the fact that Chicago typically has more moisture content in the air. Can we end this debate and all go eat some burritos now? JESUS PEOPLE. Enough about the weather.

Average dew point in July in Chicago: Over the course of a typical July, the dew point typically varies from 54°F (very comfortable) to 67°F (muggy) and is rarely below 45°F (dry) or above 74°F (very muggy).

Average dew point in July in Phoenix: Over the course of a typical July, the dew point typically varies from 39°F (dry) to 64°F (mildy humid) and is rarely below 24°F (dry) or above 71°F (very muggy).

Exactly. Trying to compare Chicago's humidity level to Phoenix is idiotic. Ask yourself this. How many evaporative coolers do you see in Illinois? I doubt you could even find a place that sells them. Now, why do you suppose that is?

[BIG CATS]

Originally Posted by petlover8

Exactly. Trying to compare Chicago's humidity level to Phoenix is idiotic. Ask yourself this. How many evaporative coolers do you see in Illinois? I doubt you could even find a place that sells them. Now, why do you suppose that is?

Because its more humid in IL on average. Key word: average. But to suggest Phoenix doesnt get as humid from time to time (which was the argument all along) is preposterous. This morning we were hovering near 70% humidity, with a 70-degree dewpoint, and 85 degrees. Thats downright near tropical levels. We're just lucky that when it gets to 105 degrees the humidity dies down, or else we'd be faced with Dubai-like heat indices.